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Help! Someone Creamed My Teener

I was pulling out of an alley this morning on my way to work. I was stopped at the end of the alley. I crept out from the car that was parked immediately to my left. Thought it was safe, then made a right onto a residential street, when out of nowhere a PT Cruiser drilled into my drivers side door and front fender. There were no skid marks which leads me to beleive that he was talking to his friend who was in the passenger seat instead of watching the road. QUESTIONS......should I take my teener to a collision repair station recommeded by my insurance company,or should I hold out for a porsche body specialist. Who sound like they are at fault??? ME or the PT??? I am bummed big time. Most of the damage is to the drivers side door, and some to the front fender.

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Old 10-17-2003, 02:24 PM
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In general, the party who has the last chance to avoid the accident is more at fault than the other.

I would try to find a place that is familiar with 914s to do the repair work. Failing that, a high quality shop is a good idea. (Theoretically a specialist would be high quality.) Some shops are butchers.... Trust me on that...

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This is one of those that it is hard to determine fault. He obviously was not paying attention and you got yourself in a bad situation not being able to see what was coming. The speed limit in any residential zone is 25 unless posted otherwise. Good luck on it. Sorry to hear you got hit.
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Unfortunately, it sounds, to me, like you are at fault here. Although the other guy might not have been paying attention, you pulled out in front of an already moving vehicle.

However, if I'm on the jury - I would naturally vote for the teener!
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Got some pics of the damage.........Will I need a new door?????

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Sorry to hear about your collision. I have to agree with Tidybuoy. Sounds like the PT Cruiser was travelling straight and you were making a turning movement. If the PT Cruiser was not paying attention, this could be a contributing factor of this collision, but not the primary collision factor. Sorry
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bummer man, thats a beatiful car. sorry to hear that man
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I think you got off easy body wise. Probably a new door would be the quickest way to fix it. The door jambs are the toughest area to fix on damage like that, but yours don't look that bad. I'd wager there's no damage beyond the skin. You don't necessarily need to search around for a P-car specialist, but a real good shop is a must. If you want to bring it up to Laguna Nigel, my brother-in-law could do you a nice job. He mostly does Mercedes and Lexus at an independent shop. He just works there. 30 years experience. PM if interested. (He'd shoot me if he knew I was pimping for him here, LOL)
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Ouch!

As bad as it looks from the photo, it dosen't look thaaat bad. It looks to me like you may need to replace the door & fix the front fender but it dosen't look that awful at the door jam. Probably will still cost a few $$$ to get it back to beautiful (which it looks like it was).
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Sorry to hear about the crash, but I agree with the other guys that (luckily!) it doesn't actually look that bad.

I don't think lack of skidmarks will be considered by insurance adjusters or anybody else as a factor at all with modern vehicles...cars with ABS brakes don't skid!

Honestly, I think you're hosed, insurance wise, but only you know what really happened. I was on the opposite side of a similar situation several years ago. A middle-aged man pulled out from a stop sign into oncoming traffic on a major (4 lane) city street. Oncoming traffic, i.e., me, had no stop sign. In hindsight I bet the guy was drunk and actually blew the stop sign and rolled right out on to the big street, but that is history now. Even with eyewitnesses and that pretty blatant accident report, I had to fight with the insurance companies for several weeks to become victorious.

Remember -- even if all evidence points to the other party as being at fault, people will sometimes lie, cheat, and do anything humanly possible to "alter reality" when their a$$ is on the line. Document EVERYTHING with notes, pictures, eyewitnesses, phone records, etc.

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Oh yeah...as Milt alluded to...check the jambs and even more importantly the longitudinals for any damage!

If there is any suspicion that the impact hit something structural, pull off the rocker cover on that side and take a look. It probably needs a cleaning under there anyway

If it was a reasonably hard t-bone the insurance co's should not fight having the car put on a rack to be measured and checked for starightness.
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what color was the PT? My friend just got one and we live down in SD. He also hasnt had his licence for very long (1yr) and he is 28 (so sad). I have parts in my back yard for your car (James' parts actually). Shoot me a PM on the parts and I will see what I can do. sean_v8_914 had miracles done to his car in TJ...just an option.
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I had a short bus pull out in front of me like that yesterday.... I saw it in time though.
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yeah, your damage isn't really that bad. It could have been worse
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.....so............does anybody have recommendations of good body shops in San Diego..or Tiajuana (where I wouldn't be scared to leave my car) ????

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Glad nobody's hurt and sorry about the crash, that's a good looking car and I'd be bummed. I wouldn't spend a lot of time on the actions of the guy in the other car and his being at fault, this one looks like it's on you. As everyone mentioned the anti-lock brakes would not leave skid marks, but that which speaks loudest to his having slowed is your own car: if he had not braked and hit you at even the 25mph said prior to be the limit in a residential area, that door probably would have folded up like a cheap tent. What I'd be pissed at is the car that was blocking your view if it wasn't the proper distance from the corner, otherwise you'll have to figure another way to ensure a clear passage before pulling out.
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