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911 2.0l swap

Hi im new to this forum and just bought my first porsche and its a 1973 2.4L 911 with a blown motor. i cant afford to put to much money into it so im wondering what conversion would be easier a vw bug motor or a 914 2.0L motor.Any info would be appreciated.
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Old 01-16-2005, 09:38 AM
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How bad is the 2.4 blown. If its rebuildable I have a 2.0 914 engine I'll swap for it. My wife wants a 2.4 for her 914.
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Its not blown. It runs and i changed the injectors rebuilt the fuel distributer but the engine is getting tired and i dont have the money to rebuild it. i bought the car not running and i can get the car to star but it dies at idle but if you give it gas it runs. it has cis as well. how is your 2.0L is it in good shape? is it run every day and is it carburator?
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I maybe interested in the 2.4, PM me with the details if you are interested in selling. May be able to wrangle up a 2.0 for you.

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Re: 911 2.0l swap

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... i cant afford to put to much money into it...
thank you
I mean this with the up-most respect. Wrong car to own. Sell it to someone that won't basterdize it.
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ok fine right me a check for $8000 us and pick up your new car.
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If you don't sell it or trade your 2.4, give me a pm. You could always use it for a parts car for a 914, they Are a lot more Fun.
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ok fine right me a check for $8000 us and pick up your new car.
Well, i would need to know a-wee bit more information about the car before i spend 8 grand. And why not put your location? Someone passing through the forum could be on the lookout for a '73 911!!!! But since you need to be secretive about your where-abouts, you shot yourself in the foot!

I'm not singling you out, honestly, because everyone at one point or another "thought" they could afford to own something, then down the line, realized that its not the "up-front" cost that gets you, rather the maintance. (Ferrari's are probably the worst of any auto.)

I would love a '73, but i have way to many projects as it is.

Trust the fallowing words...
-To convert that car to a bug, i cannot even begin to think of where to send you to get the flywheel, clutch disk, pressure plate, and throughout bearing for a 915 trans to work with the type 4 engine.
-Engine tin: Thats easy, take it from a '76 912E... but wait, they only imported about 5000 of those (if that), who knows how many are still on the market, and i do know for a fact that they are in demand. So the tin is going to cost you top $$$. You HAVE to have engine tin! You will burn up the motor without it.
-Exhaust: agian, '76 912E. Same rarity applies. Bursch doesn't even make an aftermarket header, but you can get the muffler.
-Engine mount: which you or a local machine shop can fabricate.

The cost once your into this, isn't going to be $500 to $1000... Its way more. But you can sell the 2.4 on ebay and get maybe $1500. You will easly dump that into the conversion parts, and then some.

Plus, now your paying insurance on a '73 911, and they don't care how weak the motor is...

If you want to have fun (and i'm assuming you also have a complete 914) drop the 911 engine, sell the 911 chassis (you'll probably get $7000, use that money for 914-6 conversion parts, buy Waynes 911 rebuild book, spend $3000 neccecity engine rebuild parts, and install that bad boy in your 914!

Good luck, Don.
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I'm not singling you out, honestly, because everyone at one point or another "thought" they could afford to own something, then down the line, realized that its not the "up-front" cost that gets you, rather the maintance. (Ferrari's are probably the worst of any auto.)

Good luck, Don. [/B]

which is EXACTLY why I sold my 308 and bought a 914!
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... a '76 912E... but wait, they only imported about 5000 of those (if that)...
2099 of them, actually. And that is the total that was ever made by the factory.

The good news is that a number have been made since then. There are a number of ways you can do it. Google on "Porsche 912 Gumby VW Type IV" and you should be able to find one converter's website. He started with an earlier car but I don't think that's an impediment.

I believe Bus engine tin will work with some mods. Kennedy makes an adaptor setup for Type IV to 915 gearbox mounting. Bus exhaust can be used. There are, in short, ways to get around the problems.

But it isn't that cheap, and it takes work. It's not the kind of thing you to just because you can't afford to properly repair and maintain the car, IMHO. You'll probably wind up with more money in it than if you find yourself a used running 911 motor and swap that in. And you'll have less power, and you'll lack that glorious 911 sound.

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You'll probably wind up with more money in it than if you find yourself a used running 911 motor and swap that in. And you'll have less power, and you'll lack that glorious 911 sound.

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Not to mention that a 911 with a "bug motor" will have a drastically reduced resale value. Chances are, you woulbe able to sell the same exact car with -no- motor for more than you could if you said it had a Type IV motor in it... really...

The advice from the others is good. If your budget is busted, Either find a used 2.4 that's in a good shape, and swap it out, selling the old one to recoup some of the expense. Or put the car back in the market. Putting a Type IV motor in there will wind up costing you considerably more than you think, and will reduce the value of the car dramatically. Unfortuantely, there's no limp-along fix for what you've described. Bugs and busses, the motors are a dime a dozen, but a 911 motor is another beast altogether....

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uh, BigD. He did post his location. 4th message.
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