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914's and horse power.........Now, to put them together.

First off.........I miss my old 914.


I loved the car but just never could get excited about the performance of it. It was a 72 all stock with EFI.

Now on a brighter note, I'm looking at picking up a 75 pretty soon and am already thinking about how to overcome the low power problem. The car that I'm getting has a bad motor, so my options are pretty open at this time.

I'm thinking about an engine swap


So, my question is what swaps have been done to these cars? I'm thinking about a water cooled turbo 4 cylinder, equal power to a V8 without all the bulk and weight.

Any thoughts???

Heres a pic of my old 72 that I miss....



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scott thacher has a subaru flat 4 in his... very nicely done, too...
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yup i have a suby 2.5 na attached to a stock tranny ( i even use 1st) with the radiator in the engine bay. it cools just fine, i drove it yesturday in traffic with out side temps at 95 and the temp never broke 190, although it got there when doing about 15 to 20 mph.

lets just say there are not too many stock cars that can keep up with a 175 hp 914
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Yup Subie the car. I rode in Scott's Porscharu. It will set your head to the back of the seat through 4th gear. I would imagine 5th too but we were already going 3 times the posted speed limit.
Give him some sticky tiars and a tight suspension and that car would ROCK!
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The Turbo 4 has been done; I think someone did one with the radiator mounted longitudinally in the engine bay next to the engine. Last I heard, the engine had (after a while) eaten itself; not sure if that reflects on the cooling setup or not.

I really like the idea of keeping the coolant in the engine bay. I didn't realize that there was room with the Scooby engine, but now that I do, I really am fond of that notion!!

There are always the V8, 911, or large-displacement Type IV options. None of the options are exactly cheap, unless you're willing to put in a whole ton of time and effort.

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Hmm... The scooby engine sounds interesting, and relatively cheap too.

Any other 4 cylinder swaps?

I have a complete 4G63T engine that I keep tripping over, should find a home for it...
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You can put anything in there its all about what you want to spend.
I prefer the Porsche six conversion.
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Pretty much every engine under the sun has gone into the 914 over the years.

Small Block Chevy's are great for the fact that they're not terribly heavy, quite compact, and deliver mucho bang for the buck. But they bring along with them the same problems that any powerful waterpumper will bring. 1) Torque. The stock 901 transaxle can't take gobs of power without significant investment, especiall6y 1st gear. 2) Cooling. You gotta put a radiator in there somewhere. Most of times it entails cutting sheet metal out fo the front of the car and plumbing coolant lines up there. 3) Chassis. Super torquey power plants tend to put a fair bit of stress of the chassis, reinforcement tends to be needed...

That being said, there's nothing better than a 914 that can break the 4 second 0-60 barrier.

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I'd go with a big 4 myself.

Even though I have a 350 sitting in my garage collecting dust, I couldn't bring myself to dedicate the front trunk of a 914 to a radiator.

Haven't seen the "Porscharu" but I hope to see it at the East Coast Cookout. Sounds like Scott's got one hella fast car.
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dave these to pics are for you one with no rad, one with it iinstalled
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How about the Audi/VW 2.0Turbo?

I've got the 1.8T in my Passat and I keep saying to myself, "would it bolt up in the 914?"

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someone is doing one right now...he took his one step further and used the Audi transmission...no adapter plate or special flywheel needed !!!!

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How about the Audi/VW 2.0Turbo?

I've got the 1.8T in my Passat and I keep saying to myself, "would it bolt up in the 914?"

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I would remove the rain blocker tray under the engine lid and mount the radiator horizontally under the lid. Then cut out some sections in the rear trunk floor to gain access to the top of the engine for normal maintenance needs without having to open the original engine lid except to replace the radiator.
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Interesting idea for the top mounted radiator. Let us know how that works out after it's up and running...
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It was just an idea after seeing a 914-six whose owner had cut out the rear trunk sheet metal to expose the starter, CV joints, etc. in his track car. He rewelded some tubing braces to maintain stiffness in the chassis but the top of the engine was still open for easy access. He also had a 911 engine so there was no need for a radiator under the engine lid but ran the usual lines to a front trunk mounted oil cooler.
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This is how I solved the HP problem.
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Now it looks like this.
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