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Angry No power to Starter

After fixing the turn indicator light on the panel (put in new grounds to the lights), I have no power to the starter. Lights, fuel pump and everything electrical works. I pulled the tach and gas/temp gauges from the panel to connect the grounds. Didn't touch the ignition switch. I started the car the other night when I was working on it and no problem. Grounds are clean and tight. What am I missing?? Is there something behind the gauges that I may have messed up??
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I can't think of anything....
Click/ no click? I think it may be unrelared (at least directly- maybe you knocked sumthin) to the guage work. Have you tried to short accross the solinoid to see if the starter turns? I've gone through a billion starters. Sometimes they woulld start to drag, sometimes they would just cease to respond....
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In the photo below, the red arrow points to the main power terminal at the starter (which comes straight from the battery). You mentioned "no power to starter", but you should have 12v there. Maybe you mean the starter is just not cranking?

The green arrow points to the solenoid terminal which comes from the starter switch. As SGB said, you could try shorting those and see if it cranks (obviously be careful - make sure it's in neutral).

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First, your correct in that I mean the starter is just not cranking. I jumped the starter in the back under the engine and it turns, so that shouldn't be the problem. Next, I checked the connector to the ignition (under the dash) and that seems to be solid. Like I said, all my other electrical accessories come on fine, and the car started prior to this right up with no problem and no hint of hesitation. What would you suggest next in this never ending battle. Thanks
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One other thing. When I have the headlights on and I turn the key to "Start", the headlights will go out, but come back on when I turn the key off. Don't know if this means anything...short??? ignition switch???
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Uh, have you tried another battery or a jump start? IIRC, that is indication of discharged battery....
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Since it cranks when you jump it at the starter, the symptoms point to the ignition switch circuit. One of the most common problems in this circuit is a cracked ignition switch. You might also check the seatbelt bypass junk under the passenger seat (if you have it - depends on which year your car is) for bad connections.
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The beast is alive again!!!! It seems to have been the seatbelt bypass wiring was loose under the passengers seat. After tighten it up, it started. Thanks Randy and everyone else. It's good to know you have "First Aid" when you need it.
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I eliminated all that seatbelt relay junk and just joined the solenoid wire (large yellow) there.
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Randy,
When you eliminated the wires to the seat belt relay, did you just cap them off or take them out completely??
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Unplug the relay and throw it as far as you can. Splice the two big fat yellow wires together and call it a day. (Make sure the splice is watertight, though. Shrink tubing is your friend here!)

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I ran a 50 amp capacity toggle switch in that line (74 only, I think) at that juncture. Makes a gud theft deterent....just don't forget it's there.

There are a lot of wires going to that relay. Interior lights, door switches, e brake switch, seat belt switches....off the top of my head.... Use your head iff'n you are gonna pitch it.
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