1974 price for a 911 guy

[VIPRKLR]

Fellas, I just rode in a 914 with a slighly built 3.0 (SSI and 964 cams) WHEW what a ride!!! See the post in the 911 tech forum...

Anyway, I think I want one and have found (in the paper) a 914 with very little rust (interior surface of rear trunk only) and a strong 1.8

He is asking $2500 and seems firm. this semms high compared to other 914's I have seen. What do you think???

[Joe Bob]

It depends on where ya live...your profile does not say...

In California, 2500 for that car is high....on the east coast, a rust free 914 is a rare bird.

[Rouser]

$2,500 for a '74 1.8L really isn't that bad (excluding CA and it's smog requirements), especially if it's a relatively rust-free example and in decent mechanical shape. But the part you can't confuse yourself with is the original 4 verses homemade 6+ debacle.

If you're just interested in "a 914" for its native capabilities, fine. But if you're in the market for "a 914" so you can go out and copy the "slightly built 3.0" example you rode in, than you're talking a heavy-duty investment of time, troubles, and $$$.

Oh sure, now you're gonna get a stack of posts on this subject yea-high on how you can-do/should-do/better-do the whole conversion on just the lint in your pockets. Best suggestion is to just buy the example you drove in and call it even.

[VIPRKLR]

I wish that car was for sale, but alas, it is not.

How many of you have made your own 916/6's?

Didn't Wayne do this???

[Joe Bob]

Nope, bought someone else's project and finished it...

[Jim Smolka]

To answer the question, I did this conversion.

My '75 914 started as a 1.8, then 2.0, then it went to a 3.0 SC motor. Now my 914 has a 3.2 Carrera motor. If you are going to convert a 4 to a 6, be prepared, it is not cheap if it is done correctly. Assuming you do it yourself, you will spent somewhere btwn 6 to 10k (maybe more) depending on what type of power plant you will have. This does not include the cost of the car. It is best to find someone’s abandoned project or buy a complete wrecked 911 and get the parts you need and sell the rest.

After seeing various 914s on the track, it is better to spend the money on tires, suspension, and brakes. The best money spent is money on track. There is no substitute for track time. Even with 250 + HP in my 914, there was a guy in a hot 2.0 914 at VIR who had much better lap times than I did. Though I had better brakes, suspension and HP, he had much more track time than I did. On a road course, there are many places where you do not need 200 + HP.

Not to say that having 250 + HP is not fun. It is BIG FUN However, learning to drive a 914 on the track is more important than having a big HP motor. Too many folks muscle their way around the track, never learning the smooth line.

Other things to keep in mind, once you get above 120 + MPH, 914s get awfully twitchy. I will have to add some additional spoilers etc to handle that kind of speed. Also, I only have 205 x 16 tires. I must flare my car so that it will not spin the tires coming out of every corner. Also, with that much HP, you must reinforce the car, either with a cage or a stiffening kit. Oh, and one day, I plan to have a LSD in the tranny.

And as all ways, just my $0.015 worth


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[rich]

If you really want a flat 6 car and can't find one in project form or running. Take the advise of others here and buy as rust free a roller as you can find, and a 911 wreck for the donor parts. Then all you'll need is a 1000.00 exhaust, 1000.00 oil tank and cooler, and about a 1000.00+ the flywheel, mounts and misc. linkage and stuff. But as press the guy in that 911 deeper into the corner than he's ever been, and you drive around the guy as he looses the tail, the grin will be worth it.

[VIPRKLR]

I have been racing HSR, SVRA, and SCCA for several years now and realize getting to know your car is priority number one.

I have a 911S 2.7 S in the garage and just might use that motor for a 914... I would love about 250 HP in a light car with mid engine handling...

Does Pelican sell a complete kit for such a conversion. I understand that stiffening the chassis is a major concern. Any other ideas?

Also, will a 911 steering wheel work in a 914?


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[Jim Smolka]

To answer the previous question, there is no such thing as a "Complete kit". It all depends on the options you want to use.

For example:

1. External oil cooler, yes or no
2. Heat or no heat
3. Heat exchangers or headers
4. Gear box (901, 915, 930, G50)
5. Flywheel, clutch, etc depends on which motor
6. Fuel lines (FI or not FI)
7. Oil tank (OEM or aftermarket)
8. Engine mount (I recommend Rich Johnson's)
9. Type of muffler

This does not even begin to touch the question of suspension or brakes

There is no one solution, the neat thing is that Pelican can supply you with want you need and this board offers advice/recommendations.

To answer the last question, I have heard a 911 steering column will work in a 914. I am considering removing the ignition switch and steering column from my 86 911 parts car and install them into my 914. This way, my 914 will have the switch were it belongs for a Lemans type race


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