wiring trouble

[prsche914]

Ok guys heres the problem, while changing out the tuen signal assembally on my 71 1.7 (the wires in the old one were melted)we seem to have ran into a problem. The dealer couldnt get the original 12 pin connecter so we had to update to the newer 14 pin one. Well while marking all the wires that were in the connecters the female side fell off and we have no clue what wire connects where. We have the manual on the car and I printed the wiring digram from pelican and we still cant get it right.Some of the problems are,the horn is activated by the high beam switch, The tach doesnt work, And my brand new ignition switch will turn on the fuel pump and stuff but it wont crank the starter. But the starter will fire up the car when you touch the two wireswith a test light. I know these qusteions sound dumb but i am at my last staw with this car and i need to get it fixed so i can sell it.
any help will be greatly appriciated, thanks
Tim

[DDS]

Can you sketch or lop one off of a wreck at a local junkyard?

[Roland Kunz]

Hello

OK, to go sure you talk about the stalk switch/ignitionswitch connector ?

Now did you worked on both connectors at the same time or is one still in the original row ?

Did you find any cables that didn´t have matching color codes ?

Did you recognize that the cables have different lenght and had been angled to the pinpoint and they keept that way even if the connector case is away.

Sorry I just try to understand what happend as this is a very simple task and I´m not sure what is mixed up.

Also I try if the meltet wire is sortet out or still cuts in.

The best way is to look at the case then you will see little numbers from 1-14. On both connectors . One row is even the other odd.

Now go to this pages:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/parts/electrical/914_electric_71A.jpg
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/parts/electrical/914_electric_71b.jpg

Here you will see the connector pin # if you follow the color codes. You will find the connector, shown as little black stripes and coresponting cups, direct under the switch.

The Pins/colors are:

1.) brown (B)
2.) yellow / red (A)
3.) brown (A)
4.) grey/red (A)
5.) brown/white (A/B)
6.) grey/black (A)
7.) black/green (A)
8.) black (A/B)
9.) black/white (A)
10.) yellow (A/B)
11.) black/white/green (A)
12.) red (A/B)
13.) red (A/B)
14.) no wire

The (A) or (B) refers to the shematic sheet.

There you can folow up ther path.

Grüsse

[TimW]

I probably have that 12 pin female connector end from a hacked up wire harness I could send you.

Let me know if you want me to look...

Tim
'73 914 2.0L

[prsche914]

ok to calrify all the melted wires have been cut out of the car. We have taken the plug and converted both ends to a 14 pin connector. The car was butchered byt its previous owners so there are wires in the harness that dont even show up on the diagrams so we are trying to fix everything right. The thing that puzzles me is that my ignition switch is doing what the old one did even though it is brand new. We dont want to have to take the dash off and go through the wires because i have someone who will buy the car the minute it runs and i dont want to have all these setbacks, but if that is what it takes so be it. This weekend we are gonna go throught the gauges to see if we can get the tach to work. This car is starting to be a real pain in the a$# but for some reason i think i am gonna miss it when its gone.
Tim

[Roland Kunz]

Hello

You can remove the wireloom without moving the dash out.

Now it is hard to give a good hint. If the switch is hooked up wrong a new unit will change nothing.

I think your switch/stalk wireloom is OK or is all butchered up ?

Best way to work is to get a other switch/stalk unit in good condition and plug that into the wireloom to sort out the wireloom butchering and after that you can sort out your old stalk and finished.

To have better acces to the instrumentboardwireloom you just slide out the cinnector and bend up the fix lashes then you can pull enough wir to work on it.

If you need more wire then remove all switches from the dash and push them down backwards after some twisting and removal from the turn signal relay holder you have it all in your hands. Next step is to loose the fusebox. And if you then still need more acces the instruments have to be removed and the wires feeded back.

If you need wires go to the next Junkyard and look for any 65-85 Volkswagen doesn´t matter air or water. then just cut out the main wireloom. They have all lightcolors and most other codes.

Electric looks heavy but is very simple. Most people are only shooked about the "complexity" if they see more then two wires.

But be prepared a burnt wire is normaly a shortened unfused circuit and the wire burns on the complete lenght and melts into other wires so the burnt wire can short some other wires togehter. Have a circuittester on hand and check each wire for crossing up.

Grüsse