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914-6 : Too much sway/lean

OK you Suspension gurus... I sure could use some advice on suspension upgrades for a recently aquired 1970 914-6. As far as I know everything is stock suspension plus a little engine upgrade(2.7 CIS).

What do I need to buy to get the rocketship from swaying and leaning like the SS-Minnow ( a Gilligand's island fan).

MikeZ- you were there at the last autocross to witness the leaning. Hope you might have suggestions also.
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my first guess is you have worn shocks. I have Bilsteins, if not those Koni's are great also.

If the leaning is not progressive, that is it is inconsistant, you may want new susp bushings. If they are old anyway it is the first place to start even before shocks.

SWAY BARS!!!! the biggest improvement on a non-swaybar 914.

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Expectations too high? What are comparing your body lean against? A 2002 996 GT-2? Well then........
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To get rid of the lean depends on what you are looking for as a result.

Sway bars are great, I like the 22mm bar. Also the 22 of 23mm torsion bar and 180 Lbs rear springs.

Koni Adj or Bilstiens would help too.

Naturally, the ride becomes a little more harsh
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Go to Johnson Alignment in Torrance....get shocks and torsion bars replaced and get an alignment, corner balance and ride height adjustment.....BTW...I have the high rez pic if you want.
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Can you have too much sway bar. For instance, my 914 has the stock sway bars, front and rear, and I also have a swap for the front end that includes the 911 sway bar on the front. Is too much not a good thing in this case.
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Yes, you can have too much. One of the keys to suspension setup is "balance". The 914 is a reasonably well-balanced car out of the box, and adding only a large front sway bar to it will usually make it understeer quite a bit.

Forget the 911 sway bar, the 914 one has superior geometry to the under-body bar used on most 911s. Perhaps upgrade the front bar to 19mm (adjustable) and ditch the rear bar. You'll probably need to grind off the U-tabs on the 911 A-arms and use the Weltmeister bolt-on U-tab kit. Going to 100# rear springs would probably balance things pretty nicely.

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A good combo to start with is a 19mm front sway bar....Weltmiester or Charley Bar with 19mm torsion bars in front and 140 springs in the rear.....

I like adjustable Orange Konis all around. THEN get Steve Alracon at Johnson's to do the corner balance and alignment. Depending on your usage he has will recommend proper toe in and such...don't forget to replace the bushings while you are at it....
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