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A couple of old 914 ads

Check out these old 914 ads posted on the 911 board .
I have the ads in this thread. The thread on the 911 board is about Porsche not being involved in racing. If you want to read the thread it is posted at the bottom of my post.








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Old 09-24-2002, 05:16 AM
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Joe,

Thanks for posting those. Nice cars, a 917PA, 917/10 and 914. Oh, almost forgot the 911.

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Hmm?? I thought that first one was a 908...

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Dave,

You can probably find some photos in Porsche or Can-Am reference books. When the open 917 PA (for Porsche-Audi), with Jo Siffert driving, was first run in 1969 the nose was almost the same as the 917 coupe nose. The bodywork in the above article, with the wedge shaped nose, was one of the early attemps to gain more downforce. Siffert ran the car for three years, during which the bodywork gradually evolved, with power from the normally aspirated flat 12.

I have a 1999 Can-Am photo calender which still hangs above my desk at work. I simply change the pages each month and always enjoy February as it features the 917 PA.

I also have an old unbuilt Entex 1/20 scale model of this car, with the body work as shown in the advertisement above. Curiously the kit instructions indicate the body color should be yellow, which I don't think is correct. I thought the car was initially white, and in its final year STP dayglo orange/red.

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the first pic seems to be a 917-10 and the second a 917-30, at least that's what it looks like when comparing photos in a book I have. the 908 looks like the 917-10, but it had rear fins.
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Not all 908s had fins.

The 917-10 and 917-30 looked fairly similar, with the "scoop" nose, twin humps behind the cockpit, and tail section. I usually look for the livery to tell them apart, frankly.

I had forgotten about the NA Can-Am 917s--good eye there, Mike!! I thought the nose was a bit odd for the 908, but that's the first car that leaps to mind with that "flounder" shape open-topped chassis. I should have noticed that it was a 917 coupe nose. Maybe...

I wish John Watkins still had his website up. He had many of the ads posted at a pretty decent resolution. It was always nice to see them.

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Derek,

I think the second photo is a 917/10, in fact it looks like the Vasek Pollock (of California) car which was driven by Jody Scheckter. (I think there may have been something unusual about that car. It may have been made up from a test chassis. I read about this not too long ago, but long enough ago that I forget the details.) The 917/30 was the last version raced by Penske Racing with Mark Donohue in blue and yellow Sunoco colors. Its bodywork was noticeably different from the 917/10, primarily the nose and wing. I think there were only two of these built, one is now in the Porsche museum and one is on the vintage racing circuit.

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interesting, the 917/10 and /30 in this book look very different to me, easy to tell apart.

I am looking at a picture of a 917/30 and it is white with blue and red stripes. the 917/10 pictured also looks nothing like what the ad there shows. guess this porsche book is wrong.
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No, not wrong...

They messed with the aerodynamics quite a bit as I recall. So I would think that both are 917/10s, but they were at slightly different times and slightly different stages of aerodynamic development.

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For more detailed photos go to www.962.com and look at the 917 list, you'll see all the 917 body work styles. maf 914 got it right.

I always thought my 914 was 1/4 of a 917. (4/12=1/4)
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Almost a 917?

Ooops, URY914,
How about a third of a 917?? (4/12 = 1/3??)
It's always tough to think when dreaming of 917s....
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Shooter,
Now the entire World Wide Web knows I suck at fractions!
Thanks for the correction.
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URY914

Thanks for the link. Good info. I was wrong about the number of 917/30's built. I said two but the 917 registry indicates six. Also I thought the 917PA was used for three seasons, but the registry shows that the STP sponsered car was actually the first 917/10 chassis.

The 917 series was amazing if you are into racing sportscars. I saw the 917/10 and 917/30 Can Am cars race but missed out on the earlier 917's.

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The www now knows

Thanks URY914,
Fractions? We don't need no stinkin' fractions....
Now the whole world knows that you told us about a cool 917 site. Thanks!
Did you see the Ginther "72 914-6 for sale??? Twin plug, 220hp? I need more info! oh, yeah... and a LOT more $$$$.... hmmm, a '72 -6, a 917, a T-70 MIII B....
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I coulda bought a 917 for 36 large? Oh well, I bought a house about that year for $35,000. My ex-wife sold it 13 years later for $364,000. (But, that's another story) I think the 917 has caught up.
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