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flmont 07-18-2014 05:52 PM

what beats the handling of a 914
 
I always get in the coversation,...about the best handling sports car,...and always say its the 914,..as a stock setup from the factory I dont think they can be beaten,..other than thier lack of power,...I think they beat most any car I can think of...!!! and most dont even know what they are until I show them a picture,..!!!

ASHSEIDL 07-19-2014 09:34 AM

The only thing that can beat the handling a 914 is another 914 with a better driver :cool:

mreid 07-19-2014 09:39 AM

Cayman GTS.

Dave at Pelican Parts 07-19-2014 02:24 PM

Is this a serious question, or a rhetorical question? If it's a rhetorical question, ASHDEIDL has the right answer. :D

--DD

The cap'n 07-19-2014 03:38 PM

I'm guessing a 951S is pretty close, if not better.

The Cap'n

The Glademister 07-19-2014 04:42 PM

As a Boxster and Cayman owner I can say that any mid-engine Porsche is going to have outstanding handling. I'm hopeful that my 914 will meet or exceed those expectations.

SKL1 07-19-2014 07:59 PM

Closest thing to my 914's was my departed and loved Elise. Shoulda kept it. Closest thing to a NEW 914 with a bullet proof "Toyota" engine...

flmont 07-19-2014 08:22 PM

Well kinda serious DD for what the car is,..under power'd,...skinny stock tires in all I think its hard to beat...appels to apples of course, I mean in stock form and it can only improve with any mod,...but price per performance...cheap kinda super car.....???

Dave at Pelican Parts 07-19-2014 11:18 PM

If you're serious:

Most Lotuses. The early ones are lighter, and the newer ones are a similar weight with a better suspension.
The Miata. Better grip than the stock skinny tires on the 914, great shifting, better suspension, and not that much more weight.

There are more.... Mostly because suspension for street cars has come a long way since the 1960s when the 914's suspension was designed. And also because tires are tons better than tires from the early 70s.

--DD

larrym 07-20-2014 05:19 PM

Any Miata
 
SmileWavy
Any Miata

Nostril Cheese 07-20-2014 05:41 PM

Caterham 7 or my buddy's Cayman R

flmont 07-20-2014 08:31 PM

Yea,...I knew Lotus would win,...But,.. I couldnt drive a Miata,... A 914 is a automatic classic and looks better than a miata hands down....I think.... FM

larrym 07-21-2014 11:05 AM

The definitive answer
 
is here SmileWavy
914World.com > In what class is the 914 most competitive?

then go check out the scca solo class win lists

Tobra 07-21-2014 12:13 PM

Well set up 944

Miata is a different feel, but very, very competent handling. If you say you couldn't drive one, I say you have never driven one.

Dave at Pelican Parts 07-21-2014 03:51 PM

I think a "well set up" 914 will out-handle the "well set up" 944, myself. But there are many different types of "set up"... As well as a few different definitions of "handling".

--DD

Tobra 07-21-2014 05:10 PM

I know Dave, that is sort of the joke in OT, nothing beats a well set up 944

Dave at Pelican Parts 07-21-2014 08:17 PM

Ah, I don't frequent OT. It would just get my blood pressure up... ;)

--DD

The cap'n 07-21-2014 09:25 PM

Betcha Britain Smith's 914 will beat just about any 944. Lotus suspension, Subie turbo motor, modded 915 gearbox.

Porsche 914 Racecar - 6speedonline.com Forums

The Cap'n

Cairo94507 07-22-2014 07:57 AM

My '01 Acura NSX was pretty darn close to my last Six.

Tobra 07-22-2014 01:10 PM

Thing about the 914 is it has a low polar moment. Not only is it mid engine, but the weight is concentrated between the front and rear wheels. This sort of pushes the limits of handlng up there, but if you go over the edge, you are probably not going to catch it.

A Miata is front-mid, with the motor behind the front wheels, and has pretty close to a 50:50 weight distribution, but is as different as night and day from a 914.

That said, a Caterham/Lotus 7 would be tough to beat. There is no replacement for light weight.

URY914 07-22-2014 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 8176669)
There is no replacement for light weight.

I like the way you think....;)

nine11speedster 07-22-2014 06:16 PM

(As Dave have said)...this onehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1406078191.jpg

flmont 07-22-2014 09:24 PM

Tobra,...that is true,.. I have never driven one,...the one thing I should have stated,...is what car of the same Era as the 914, thats the same type of car...MGB, TR6,Austin healies,and yes a lotus,little dino ferrari,..iam sure they have more pwr,...just a stk little VW 914 is pretty kick ass off the show room,...They were so unique for there time....FM

flmont 07-22-2014 09:27 PM

How much is that Elise,...nice looking and I belive very basic...just like the 914,..I have seen 2 of them so far around tucson,....and both times they were screem'in down the road...had a nice sound also,....FM

nine11speedster 07-22-2014 11:02 PM

the Series 1 (S1) Elise were not really street legal in the US. That silver one is mine (in Hong Kong), but I believe there are a few S1 Elise in the US (for track use only), but i m not sure how much they go for in the US; out here its about 20to30k usd. (FYI, S1 Elise uses Rover engine; whereas the newer Elise uses Toyota engines).

Dave at Pelican Parts 07-23-2014 07:21 AM

There were some S1 cars that were converted to use Honda VTEC engines and legally imported to the US.

--DD

Tobra 07-23-2014 09:51 AM

Got a ride in an Elise with an S2000 motor. It was a beast. Elise is going to cost you plenty, prices heading back up.

As far as cars that were available in 1970, 914 is head and shoulders above anything close to its price. There was a guy running DM I think in a 914 last time I went autocrossing. Less than a ton with big sticky Hoosiers, he was fast, fast fast. Sounded like an angry chainsaw. Big four out back.

Dave at Pelican Parts 07-23-2014 04:18 PM

The early Lotuses were available in the 70s, and they definitely give the stock 914 a run for its handling money.

--DD

Dave at Pelican Parts 07-23-2014 04:19 PM

The early Lotuses were available in the 70s, and they definitely give the stock 914 a run for its handling money.

--DD


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