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starter motor

Hi, Can someone confirm to me that I can use a starter motor from a Karmann or early bay in my 71 914, I have a USA car and finding parts in the UK is very testing, I'm sure it'll be okay but thought I'd ask the question before I spend my cash.
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The Bosch part number for the starter that fits the 914 is SR17X. Many parts catalogs have a different number which is incorrect.

A Google search for that part number turned up a page which said:

"Bosch SR17X starter will fit
1968-1979 Volkswagen Beetle
1968-1974 Karmann Ghia
1973-1975 Volkswagen Bus"

So it looks like you might be able to get it to work.

Note that the 73-75 Bus did use a Type IV engine similar to the 914's.

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You can also use the starter for an early 911. It is a higher torque motor in a starter that is otherwise the same dimensions. By early 911 I mean the one that uses the same transmission, 901. It will cost a bit more.
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Horn issue

Thanks guys,

I found a lucas that match's and got a life time guarantee with it.result

I now have another issue,

The car arrived with the horn disconnected and now I'm trying to figure out how it goes back together.

There was no contact pin or rubber cap, I have purchased both (long pin) and fitted them as I thought they should be

I have a brown wire with white stipe that is live and connects to something but what? see pic.

Must be an easy fix? It's driving me mad.


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all the automatics use the 17x
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With a 71, there is a horn contact switch that is a separate part that goes in the steering wheel hub. I'm not familiar with the early setup, but what it will do is ground that brown/white wire. That completes the circuit through the horn, causing it to sound. The ground is generally provided by the steering hub itself.

Mark, please stop feeding the newbies disinformation. You know and I know that the "book" is messed up and says the 17x is sued by automatics only, but they don't know that...

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Mark, please stop feeding the newbies disinformation. You know and I know that the "book" is messed up and says the 17x is sued by automatics only, but they don't know that...

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Disinformation? WTF are you rambling on about?
I was just stating the fact that the automatics VW's of that era all used the 17X. I was never even thinking of the one 914 sporto.

I guess I didn't clarify the VW bit, but the OP was asking if an early VW bus or Ghia starter will work... and it won't.
The 15x is not a self supporting starter.

IF you want to be a f'in ass wipe you are the one spreading disinformation google miester.
1968-1979 Volkswagen Beetle
1968-1974 Karmann Ghia
The correct starter for these cars (manual trans) is the 15x which no way in hell will work in a 914.
Now you can use a 17x in both these cars, but if the OP orders a starter for one he is very likely going to get a 15x which is NFG in a 914.


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The Bosch part number for the starter that fits the 914 is SR17X. Many parts catalogs have a different number which is incorrect.

A Google search for that part number turned up a page which said:

"Bosch SR17X starter will fit
1968-1979 Volkswagen Beetle
1968-1974 Karmann Ghia
1973-1975 Volkswagen Bus"

So it looks like you might be able to get it to work.

Note that the 73-75 Bus did use a Type IV engine similar to the 914's.

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Thanks for the clarification. I really thought that the automatic thing was a complete mistake in the parts books! (And the automatic 914-4 not actually existing doesn't help.)

I did cite my source, and I can appreciate that it was wrong.

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