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Roastin944 04-21-2003 06:45 AM

Coil not getting power
 
What would cause a coil to not be getting and juice or power on a 83 944. ThanksSmileWavy

carsontc 04-21-2003 10:36 AM

power usally comes from key switch...you wouldn't be the first one to have it go bad...

you got an alarm?

1.2gees 04-21-2003 10:42 AM

Do the injectors pulse?
Ahmet

Roastin944 04-21-2003 10:44 AM

actually im not sure, i dont own the car, but am thinking about getting it. That is the only thing wrong with it is it wont start, he said the coil seems like it isnt getting power. Is there something you can do to find out what is bad so you dnt have to just start replacing things till you find out what it is? Thanks

John

1.2gees 04-21-2003 10:49 AM

Well, the idea is you diagnose and identify the thing that doesn't work and replace only the item(s) that need to be replaced.

If the injectors also don't pulse it could mean a fried DME, crank position/speed sensor, etc. If it's just the coil it could be a # of other things, likely wiring. I believe a DME relay can cause the coil to go powerless, connections at the AFM (or a broken AFM) are possibilities also.
Ahmet

carsontc 04-21-2003 11:39 AM

I've 'hot-wired' +12volts to the small black lead on the coil and car started...(bypass key)...had to pull the 'hot-wire' off to stop it.

yeah, I know what your thinking...GTA (grand theft auto)...NOT.!

todwic 04-21-2003 12:24 PM

I've done the same as Tom. Grab your voltmeter, it's a simple matter to do a quick troubleshoot and see if you're getting voltage to coil, or if it's not getting ign. pulse.

carsontc 04-21-2003 12:48 PM

if you know for a fact the engine is good (good belts, compression, internals...etc) and the seller is known to be trust worthy, you know this forum will talk you through getting that car started again. dunno the asking price but you know these cars are old and need a lot of TLC and sometimes that gets expensive...so of course, you need to know the maintenance history as well.

88_944 04-21-2003 01:08 PM

What I would do is look at some of PelicanParts Electrical Diagrams and see where you can start back tracking the problem.

Go here.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/944/electrical/944_electrical_diagrams.htm


Edit: Looks like DME my friend.


Here's some of the coil ones. I would trace back the positive side of the power to the coil.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/944/elec...944_84_1_2.jpg

carsontc 04-21-2003 05:36 PM

too soon to tell. I hear lots of DME units and coils get replaced needlessly. like Ahmet says "replace only the item(s) that need to be replaced"

Todwic & I have just experienced weird reference sensor problems that I'll bet are more common to 'no spark' troubles then coils or DME units. time will tell though.

carsontc 04-21-2003 05:46 PM

btw...both the coil AND the DME relay (& other stuff) are powered from the ignition key 'on' switch.

todwic 04-21-2003 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carsontc
too soon to tell. I hear lots of DME units and coils get replaced needlessly. like Ahmet says "replace only the item(s) that need to be replaced"

Todwic & I have just experienced weird reference sensor problems that I'll bet are more common to 'no spark' troubles then coils or DME units. time will tell though.

both statements are true true true


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