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Please Help!!!!

So...I put some new brakes on this weekend. During the process I told my buddy to put some brake fluid in to keep the level high.

Well, he decided to pour some into the power steering reservoir. Had no problems until today when my power steering starting making all kinds of bad noise due to a low fluid level.

I got to my house and left it in the garage, tough day so I figured I would deal with it later. I just went back out and there is an enourmous puddle on the floor of the garage. All of my other fluids are fine, but nothing is in my power steering reservoir.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED??? AND WHAT THE HELL CAN I DO NOW????

I thought I would just fill it in the morning and drive it to the shop. Please help!!!

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The 944 power steering hoses get extremely brittle over time, it does not take much to get them to start leaking. Check the connections to the resevour, they leak down the chassis rail, onto the rock pans and behind the passenger side wheel. All of the hoses can be fabricated at Napa.

Now if your leaking from somewhere else then you may need a new rack or a new pump. Brake fluid is extremely acidic, it can even strip paint!
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It looks like the lines from the reservoir have always been leaking a bit...so I'm sure I'll have to replace those lines.

The thing is that all the fluid leaked out while the car was off. There is a huge puddle under my car....all the fluid has drained from the system!!! Would that mean a line broke? Or could that still point the finger to the rack or the pump??

Now I have to drive my ride to the shop and am nervous that if the pump isn't blown, it will be after I drive that thing with no fluid going through it.

F*CK!!!
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If you run the pump without fluid going through it, you'll burn it up. So, if you must drive the car to the shop or otherwise run the engine, remove the belt that drives the pump before you restart the engine. Can you tell if it leaked from anywhere else in addition to the reservoir?
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brake fluid wouldnt do anything to the rack itself. buy some more fluid (power steering fluid this time ) fill it up, put it on jackstands and have some one turn the wheel back and forth to find out where the leak is.
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Thanks for the help guys.

I was forced to drive it to the shop this morning. I asked the guy at the shop that very question: "should i remove the belt so it's not spinning?"

He said no bcz it may screw something else up. So I drove it, probably burnt the pump. Indeed the brake fluid is very corosive and they believe it ruined the seals. Even though my friend only put a small amount it....I think...he's probably BSing me.....

I am just praying that I will only have to replace a few parts. I told my buddy he is buying me a new pump if I have to get one!! What an idoit....goes back to the belief..."When in doubt....ASK!!!!"
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well, I think the mech may have given you a bad piece of advice. disconnecting the pump would be better for the pump as it's not spinning. it would be the same as if it were sitting on a shelf somewhere. I don't believe you'll damage the steering by not having the pump connected. it'll just make it harder to steer. about the only side-effect would be that your upper arms would be in danger of getting a good work out.
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I agree with you ronin.

The mechanic just called me back and said the leak was coming from the pump, and of course, it is now shot.

With all the work to get done, he said $700! So I asked how much for the pump and he told me $370!! I went to 944racing.com and found one rebuilt with a warranty for $150! I told him I would Next Day it over to him so he can do the work tomorrow.

Imagine if we didn't know better.....you could get killed by these damn mechanics!!
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yes you could. and I'd be willing to say that, if you have a bit of mechanical experience, you could replace the pump yourself and save a bit more. I mean, it does look like he's about to charge you $330 for the labor.
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Replacing the pump is an hour job at best, very easy. Bleeding the system can sometimes be painfull, but it's a DIY repair.
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well, there ya go! now you have no excuse!
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You're right....

Sometimes I wish I were back in CT, where my parents have a full lift in their bar. So easy to work on your car back there, with all the tools etc.

Now, I'm forced to work on my car in my apt complex driveway. They aren't too fond of any work relating to any kind of fluid that may spill....so they're always watching me.

It sucks having to cough up the cash. I've always been able to leave my ride in the barn and drive something else for however long I needed.

I think I need another car...for just this kind of situation....and a nice big garage with lift....hmmm....if only I had more $$$$$$$

BTW, labor is $285 including an oil change. Plus the pump, which my friend just purchased to help me out....$165 with shipping at 944 racing!
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Is there a decent shop up in Boulder? Reason I ask is that someone else I know is looking for an honest mechanic, that not to expensive, he is a CU student.

BTW don't the "greenies" in Boulder frown on your older car? I thought the rounded up all the older cars and ran them out of town?
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I agree with Scott. looking for a different mechanic isn't a bad idea, considering that your current one gave you information that helped lead to the unltimate demise of your p/s pump. if nothing else, at least shop around to see what others have to offer.
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Well, I have gone through college going to one place in Boulder, where I have repeatedly gotten my money stolen from me. They were ridiculous!! Everytime I brought my car in for something, they would "fix it" yet the noise or problem would still be there.

So, this was my first visit to a new shop, and I am VERY pleased! It's called Import Specialists. Out on Arapahoe Rd and 65th. Pretty far east, but worth the trip. They are being very helpful with my issue with the power steering.

Tell your friend to go there, as much as I can tell, they're great.
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I just want to make sure I understand correctly. is this Import Specialists the same place that told you to not disconnect the pump?
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USE ATF in powersteering RACK!!!!!
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Now, I'm forced to work on my car in my apt complex driveway. They aren't too fond of any work relating to any kind of fluid that may spill....so they're always watching me.
haha i just got a call from my apartment complex lady. they need to have a talk with me about that


and has Porsche adressed the ATF in power steering system issue? they should have something to say about it one way or the other.
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Yeah...Import Specialist is the one that told me not to disconnect my pump. Luckily, the problem ended up being the seals in the pump that created the leak, not any of the lines.

Besides that, they have been really cool with letting me get my own parts for cheaper than they offered and are willing to work with me to get my ride back on the street as quick as possible. So for that I appreciate them. As for the advice I received from the desk guy (didn't know that til I got there)....not so good

The total bill is now $280 including an oil change/filter, fluid top off, steam clean of the engine and some other stuff. My friend bought the pump, so the $280 is what I'll have to pay for. Not too bad.....I guess.....
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well, everyone deserves a second chance I guess. as for the seals, that was my original hunch as brake fluid is very corrosive. glad for you that the bill was a lot lower than anticipated

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