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Porsche Crest Euro spec. 944 in the USA - parts & maintainance ?

A European spec 1984 944 is for sale in my area, my question is:
Is it difficult to find parts or a mechanic to work on a Euro car in California?
Also if I go look at it is there anything special I should look out for? I have been a 944 owner for over two years now so I know about the usual maintenance issues for a USA car.

IF I were to buy this car I would have to let mine go (see sig) I will give it to someone for $2000.

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Re: Euro spec. 944 in the USA - parts & maintainance ?

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I have been a 944 owner for over two years now
Scott, you must know the compression ratio is much higher - as is the HP

can you live with that?
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Old 10-14-2003, 05:55 PM
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He may not with the price of high test in California!

By the way $2000 for Scott's car is a steal. I would buy it if I had the money.
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Re: Re: Euro spec. 944 in the USA - parts & maintainance ?

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Scott, you must know the compression ratio is much higher - as is the HP

can you live with that?
It also has fuchs, "special Porsche seats"and those cool euro bumpers, I got an email back from the owner and it is still available, I have not seen the car yet so I don't know the REAL condition but it sounds interesting.

Hey SoCal how much would you charge to do a PPI?
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Pizza Pilsner Ingestion?



Not much. Trying to get a scab job with the local supermarkets so I don't know what my schedual may become.
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It also seems like the owner is a lady... hmmmm... I might be checking out more than the car
Probably look at it (them) this weekend, I'll keep you posted.

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Of course FR will help you with an internal DME modification to over come these impositions.
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Well IF I get the car I would like to get together with the S. Cal gang so you guys can scrutinize my latest financial folly.

I am thinking of looking at the car this weekend... a few curious things in the ad... besides the fuchs and seats... lowered (she seems to think that's part of the euro spec?) and "racing exhaust"

hmmmm.
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Not the original owner?
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sunroof delete
light weight fuchs
lowered
special seats
high compression engine
racing exhaust

(and she only raced it to chuch on sundays)
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Quote:
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The Euro DME has no O2 sensor capability. It was left off. The printed circuit boards are the same as the US DME and they just leave off some parts on the Euro DME. Parts and testing time makes the Euro DME cheaper to build.

The Euro DME can't be made to read an O2 sensor. They buy these external lambda units and wire it internal to the Euro DME. I have never seen one but I would like to see how they wire it up.
So it would be better to stick a US DME in it and do the extra wiring or get a harness. Will the program in a US DME handle the extra compression? Knock sensors?
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IIRC the stock 'early' US DME can't handle knock sensors

but this can handle any knock problems:

http://www.7453217467431.com/browse/assBrowse.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=890477&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=79087&affID=DFX&affiliate=DFX
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Interesting but not dynamic as in the 944S. I would opt for the dynamic correction with a knock sensor. Don't the turbos have a knock sensor?
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Ya, turbos do have a knock sensor. If I remember correctly the NA block has the provision for one as well.
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1 knock sensor on the turbo but different harness(s) plugs for DME/KLR

the S and S2 each have 2 knock sensors and 1 DME harness and plug, this might be a better route but still quite invasive...plus the single speed/reference sensor on the cam gear

either way there might be a few other wiring changes...dunno if the tach signal is the same etc...of course the speedometer input would be ignored since the early is from the front wheel and not electronic

suddenly the 'dial-in-retard-selector-box' may not be so bad
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It's very close to the point where the block and the head mate, on the intake side (on the block). It's around cylinder 2 & 3.
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as far a difficulty finding parts or someone to work on one…I had euro ‘grey market’ cars and had no problems getting parts or service

the showroom people will say you’ll have trouble and won’t be able to sell the car…but it is a myth sales-people spread for obvious reasons
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Yeah, I don't think maintaining the car would be much of an issue. If it were a model that was never brought here, that'd be one thing. But there's only so many differences between a us spec 944 vs. a ROW car.
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Yes? I have a knock sensor?

Is there any way to know if it´s working?
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