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Angry @&$*ing #$%@#$%it son of a #$%@^!!!!!

Big event in my life Saturday night.(you may want to take the kids from the room)

Well got about 200 miles on my new used engine and went for a drive. I'm driving trhough the "sticks" and about 30 min. into the drive I hear a semi-soft "POP" I immidiatly pushed the clutch and the brake in and they go to the floof with no resistance. I then use my e-brake to slow down and pull the car off the road shut down the engine and I see thick white smoke pouring from under the hood. I quickly pop the hood and as I'm getting out I see flames coming from under the hood. I open it to see a fire covering the top of the engine.
Called 911 and waited and watched my car burn for 45 min. to an hour for them to arrive and put out my baby!!!

I'm now talking with my mechanic that put in the engine and getting a fire investigator to attempt to figue out what went wrong.
But I don't feel that something like this should "just happen" especcially when I just had the engine installed. He must have done something wrong

I will now carry a fire bottle in my cars from now on.

Hopefully I'll get some pics up.

The fire never got passed the firewall though but the interior is far beyond salvageable because of smoke damage.

Of course I don't have comprehesive just liability.

I'm getting ready for the fight.

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Old 10-21-2003, 04:59 PM
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man, I totally feel your pain, that must really suck, you should be able to prove that it was the fault of the mechanic, this shouldn't have just happened like this. A sad sad day for the whole community, I'm rooting for you man! hope it all works out fine. Maybe i should get a fire extenguisher.
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I hate reading these posts! Wow, that sucks dude. hope you get it all taken care of and are on the road again soon
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Old 10-21-2003, 05:17 PM
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Has to be mighty hot to make brake fluid burn. Good luck, man.
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Oh man... Sorry to hear that.
Atleast your not hurt man, but damn.. Not the 944! N0o0o0o0o0o!

Well good luck.
Stay safe.
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that sucks. hope you get it straightened out.
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Sorry to hear it, that really sucks. Glad you are allright.
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Old 10-21-2003, 07:31 PM
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Sorry,

Yes it sounds like brake fluid, how else could you loose the brakes straight away?

Its a little known fact that more engine fires are caused by hydraulic fluid than by fuel - because its sticky like napalm rather than just evaporating.

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They don't have dirt along side the roads up there?

All your mech had to do was call me back a few times and I would have gladly gone over the fine points of putting the engine back in. He didn't.

He didn't use the fuel rail from the 87? If he did then the fuel lines came loose as he would have had to patch in a length to make it work.
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wounds heal... not the 944!
just kidding.
glad your ok.
you would've been SOL if you got hurt back in the boonies.
you're lucky.
sorry for the loss, hope you stick it to the mechanic hard.
i think i'll get a fire extinguisher.
but look on the bright side, now is your chance for a 951!
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Thanks for all the condolences The only injury I sustained was a burnned finger and a broken heart. The hardest part was watching her burn while waiting an hour for the fire truck.

SoCal I told him you were avalible and to call you for information he didn't so now I find myself here live and learn huh.
yeah we have dirt and dead grass I had to put out about four small grass fires around my car from the hood insulation falling off while burnning.(That would have just been icing on the cake being charged with starting a couple hundred acre grass fire)
The car held the fire in the engine compartment well I don't think the fire ever went passed the firewall and it burnned for at least 45 min. and possibly for over an hour before the volunteer fire department showed up.
I hope he stands by his work(thats why they carry insurance right???) if not I guess I'll be seeing him in court and doing the work myself from now on. At least then it would have been my fault for the fire and I could kick myself not pebbles.

GET A FIRE EXTINGUISHER FOR YOUR CAR PEOPLE! I think I could have put the fire out with even the little bottle. Or at least left a little evidence to show how the mechanic screwed up as it is it's just melted metal.
The volunteer fire fighters who put out the fire said that brake/clutch fluid caused the fire.
The local fire marshal who looked at it where it is in the mechanics lot said the fire started by the firewall and came forward but that was all he could say.
I'm having the fire expert in the area look at it on thursday. Wish me luck. I'll keep you guys posted on the developments. Thanks
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Live and learn is easy. It's getting over that sick feeling in one's stomach. Take a look at the fuel rail. If the two canisters attached to it are on the back end then it's the early 83 unit. If the canisters are at each end then it's the later fuel rail.

These can develope 60 psi of fuel pressure if the regulator fails. You can use clamps on the return line but you have to use compression fittings on the feed line.

Both lines come up the fire wall right next to the brake booster.
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Man sorry to hear about that,Tech,I ALWAYS carry a fire extingisher in my car.
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Nobody helped you while you were waiting??

Fire extinguiher is a must have...my cousin,PO, carried a little one,engine burned and the extinguisher practically did nothing...After all,a major fire extinguiser is carried.

Repair bill was about 4500...lots of plastic things changed,and injectors,and lots of small things (good for me as i was the next owner )
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Manute, boonies = english : el middlero of la Nowhere-o = spanish. There was no one around to help. I hope i cleared that up for ya.,
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I am fealing your pain. It always brings a tear to my eye when an '83 goes down for the count.

Save everything you can so you can start anew.

Take many,many pictures to show the damage. A picture is worth a thousand words and you want 1,000,000 words.

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All righty
The problem evedently was the feul line. The crimped part failed and I was told feul was ignigted and acted like a blow torch and started the hydrolic oil on fire ect. ect. ect.(Hugh the 83 rail was used)


There were people to help but they didnt have fire extinguisers. And when people that showed up did have them the hood had fallen closed again and they insisted on shooting the wheel well not the engine compartment(stupid hicks).


My favorites are "The sticks" and "BFE"


The mechanic insurance ajuster is comming soon and then it looks as if I'm going to get fully compensated(or fully screwed).

I'm going to try to buy the car from the insurance company and start work on the other 83 I have.
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Manute, boonies = english : el middlero of la Nowhere-o = spanish. There was no one around to help. I hope i cleared that up for ya.,
hehehehe very clear!

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