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paint touch ups

alright so I am walking to my car today and something catches me that just isn't right. i walk over to the left rear quarterpanel and some #$%^@ scraped up my car. Now it doesn't look like there is any dent in the panel but the paint is now cracked up on about a 1-2 foot stretch, and stress cracks as well around it. Has anyone fixed stuff like this and have a good solution for me. I really want to get it back into shape without being able to notice at all..


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Old 11-18-2003, 07:29 PM
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wow, that sounds pretty bad. could you post a pic for a better repair assessment?
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not the best pics but you get the idea.....if left like this water could possibly get under a bunch more paint and things could start to rust.........
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OUCH! - My advice: if you can afford it, go to a paint shop, this is more than just a scratch, it looks like quite a lot of paint is loose which means that something has caused it to become unstuck from the bodywork. Possibly it has been repaired before, badly, and this means the rest of the paint in that area will be questionable. I dont think a scratch has caused this, it may have quickened the effects but this is a paint problem.

It's difficult to see clearly but, assuming this is the rear flare over the wheel arch, on the picture it looks like you have a lip, which you shouldn't have, check for filler underneath the cracked area.

I dont wanna scare you at all, but I think a respray of the whole panel is in order. If you bodge it, the problem will return. Hence - unless you really know what you're doing, see a paint specialist.

How long have you had the car? Poor paint jobs usually show within about three to six months. This happened to my hood after I had it sprayed to remove chips, I took it back to the paint shop and they did the whole of the front again.
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yes, the thing that caused it to come unstuck from the bodywork was the bumper of another vehicle. I can assure you it was perfect before, and it hadn't been just repainted.......It isn't necissarily a scratch, but more of an impactfull scrapping up against that caused the paint to crack in that area. now that i looked at it in the light this morning i deffinately see a crease in the panel.......didn't see that last night.....deffinately need to go talk to a body shop.

what do you think it would cost to remove a crease and respray the panel?


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I agree with flange. the paint looks like it had been repaired before. I have had a similar problem with another car where a not-so-good repaint cracked when stress was applied to the paint. (it was on the bottom of a bent qaurterpanel wheelarch) the other vehicle must have been pretty tall to get you up on the quarterpanel like that though
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deffinately not repaired before........
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then there's the question why the paint would separate into layers like it did. factory paint does not do this
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Didn't realise you meant a bump, thought someone had just keyed it!

Still, Ronin's correct, paint cracks like that usually indicate a previous respray OR a very bent bit of metal, although factory paint tends to bend with the metal because of how it is applied.

Either way, it's off to the body shop with you my son!

That particular panel - the rear 1/4, is tricky because unlike the fronts (wings) they are welded onto the car, the entire back half is pretty much one unit which goes all the way up to the roof and the front windscreen. It's going to have to be one of the following:

A very skilled paint job which is blended in to the existing - in my experience few places get this right, especially on older cars whose colour has faded. I had this done to my old Quattro after a bump, up close it looked fine but from down the street when the sun caught it it was so obviously different. - Not so much of a problem with white as long as you get the right paint made up.

Respray most of the back of the car - more expensive but less risk of it looking obvious. I did similar with the front of mine (Stone Chips) again some problems matching colour and texture but can be blended more easily (larger surface area).

Respray the whole car - completely unnecessary unless the front is bobbins anyway but it's gonna cost ya AND if the car is original apart from the dented bit, you don't want to replace all that porsche paint 'cause they do it better than most paint shops would.

See if your insurance will cover a hit and run since someone hit your car and ran away....
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where are you located? I just painted my 928.

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then there's the question why the paint would separate into layers like it did. factory paint does not do this
Not seperated in to layers. Just seperated from the metal.

flangermog - I originally saw this in the dark and didn't see as bad as it really was. It appears someone was pulling parallel along side my car and their bumper cought that pushed a long crease along the wheel well area, just below where the body curved down. Well they obviously didn't notice right away or didn't care because they just kept on going. so not necissarilly an initial bump, but they just scraped all along there.....made a long narrow crease/dent and because of the way it bent the metal the paint cracked right up......

Blackfoot - I am in Oregon.
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Man, that sucks. take it you didn't get the licence plate. creases so close to a tight curve in the panel like that may be difficult to beat out. You may have to cut your losses and use filler (sorry!) to avoid a rather expensive body shop bill.

It is difficult to see clearly in your pic, it might not be all that bad, I'm just trying to imagine what it should look like whilst looking at your pics. maybe you could take one in the daytime and let us see a side on view also to get a better idea but I think your choices will remain the same: bodge it, or pay to get it done properly.

Are you insured?
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I just painted my 928.
where and how much?
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in my garage and i'm guessing the materials were about $600, all PPG products. but that is insignificant next to the 80 hours i have into the car to this point. :-) I'm putting the final clearcoat layers on today.

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ooooh, you have to let me know how it come out. I've been wanting to do a repaint myself but just can't afford the 4-5k right now for a full stip and paint
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if you want, you can email or pm me with your phone number and you can see for yourself.

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you've got (pm)ail

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