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Where are these nuts from?

I found these at the bottom of my bellhousing where my starter is. They look broken to me. Heres a ton of pictures.

BTW: In the year 2022, Pacman will figure out how to replicate and eat all the change in the world. Also people wont know how to set there clocks properly on thier digital cameras.







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They look almost as if they've been cut with a nut splitter by the last person who worked on the car and left in the housing by mistake. I've never ever seen broken nuts. Not since a guy sat on my bike without permission leastways.
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Wow, if you're finding change in your bellhousing...
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I agree. Those nuts were cut by a nut splitter. So why did the they leave them in there?

I am always amazed at some of the stuff you find. I am really glad you found those, they could have been real trouble had they lodged somewhere expensive.

When you mentioned the 3 on 1 off, that was the exact description of the sound when the pebble was found in the same place, and that led me to suggest the starter removal again.
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OK, now back to the charging problem.......
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The unasked question: What were you doing in the bottom of your bellhousing, and was there any paper currency in with the change?

It seems that there is a young lady in Florida that will do this very thing to the nuts of your choice, for a price. I'm not sure if it is legal in all 50 states though.
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One of the disadvantages of starting new threads without finishing the previous one is that some poor innocent fella will come along and ask a question already asked and answered.

Please see the thread "Chattering........."

THAT thread came from the thread titled 'Quick Starter question......."

THAT thread came from the thread titled "Battery not charging......."

Believe it or not, some of this is duplicated over on Rennlist.

We need to get Cooler to keep one thread going so we can all see the progression and diagnosis going on. A LOT of the time, all of this stuff is related.

In his case the starter / charging is probably related., but getting to that we discovered that the starter has loose pieces floating in it. We discovered that there had been a PO's clutch job. Funny sounds coming from the flywheel area.

All of this looks like it is related.

Will be interested to see how it turns out.
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Thanx. Must have missed the road sign. Anyway, the post was an attempt at humor.

With the tight tollerances, it is lucky that the bellhousing was not dammaged.
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Kirby,

I didn't mean anything towards you. I was more trying to tie the loose ends up.

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No inference taken, I appreciated the roadmap. Another mystery of how POs take care of their 944s, or lack thereof, and they still run.
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As I remember, Cooler (correct me if I am wrong) just aquired this one not too long ago and is still learning all the eccentricities of this model. It is a beautiful car, as I remember. I saw it last weekend at the CT timing belt party. I wish there had been time to go over everyones' car in detail. As it was we were barely able to crank out 3 belt changes.

I think (correct me if I'm wrong, Cooler) we talked about a funny grinding noise your starter was making. I wish I had walked over and listened to it. Remember we talked about the horror of the gnashed flywheel and replacement thereof? I think we dodged the bullet on that one.

Well, at least we found the rattling nuts, and you are well on your way to getting the charging system back to normal. You will be the "starter expert" by the time this is done, especially since you 'rebuilt' yours, something I would not have attempted.
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Wow! Did Cooler turn the armature, replace brushes, bearings, and solenoid? The little Bosch starters are pretty high tech compared with the gross ones used on American cars.
Good job Cooler!
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It looked simple to me? Ill get back to the charging problem now.
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This has nothing to do with nut splitters but a friend of mine has a baby boy and once while changing the kid's diaper he found 37 cents in the kid's poop.

3 Dimes
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This has nothing to do with nut splitters but a friend of mine has a baby boy and once while changing the kid's diaper he found 37 cents in the kid's poop.

3 Dimes
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Heh. If he kept that up he could save enough to put himself through college when he came of age.

It'd be ideal for dealing with those whiney pests that come up to you begging for spare change. Pick it out of that lot sucker!
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It looks like a split nut to me. No not a nut that was split using a nut cracker but rather a special quick release nut that includes 2 nuts that are missing 1/4 of the dia of the ID. The 2 nuts are stacked on top of eachother and can rotate. To install the nut you rotate both parts so the open ends are on the same side. You then place the nut on a stud or bolt resting on the bearing surface. You then rotate one of the nuts so each open end is 180 degrees of eachother then turn the nuts with a wrench. By doing this you reduce the amount of turns needed to install and tighten a fastener from 15 turns to 1. This saves alot of time for changing over parts. The 2 nuts would normally be attached to eachother stacked on top of one and another. My babble
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Those are some split and broken nuts - Kind of like marriage, but you don't lose half of your possessions in the process.

Now, the real question is "Where did they come from"

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I would think they fell in from the clutch inspection hole.......... Maybe splitting the nut from the wiring mess thats back there agains the fire wall ?
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Quote:
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With the tight tollerances, it is lucky that the bellhousing was not dammaged.
Truely this is so. In my '84 I had a torque converter bolt work loose, catch a ride on the fins of the t.c. and wedge into the top of my tranny bell housing, knocking a small hole in the housing and wedging the t.c. firmly into the housing with the bolt acting like a locked pinion. Luckily this happened as I was pulling into my driveway! because the motor died instantly and then acted like the starter was locked. took me a day and a half to find the problem.
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Thanks for the post - I'm laughing!

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