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sealant

What is the recomended sealant to use in conjunction with a new oil pan gasket?

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Old 12-03-2003, 10:23 PM
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none according to Haynes. FWSM says..... (brb)
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.....none "check, replacing if necessary"
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Are you replacing your oil pan gasket on your 944 or your 951? I have heard the job sucks. Of course it is next on my need to fix list. Post your pics and write your story. We all like todwic stories. ;-)
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good question, forgot that cowman has both
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isnt there a special sealant you need to use that (forgot the proper name) only dries when you reassemle it in the absence of air ?

I'm sure thats what you need to use
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I'm doing mine for the second time in two years. First time I did it, it leaked in the back. It is a lot of work. Don't know what I did wrong the first time when I did rod bearings two years ago. I hope it'll be obvious when I remove the pan this weekend.

Local non-dealer shop needed 14 hours labor to do it so I'm doing it myself - again.
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I think it was on the PCA site where I read that they put Curel-t or something of that nature on the frond and back of the seal. On my '84 there was a white substance on these areas of my oil pan..

Yeah, after Christmas I'm gonna change the seal on my 951, along with my front end seals. My digital camera sux but I'll take pics anyway. I'm looking for a long assed lead for my web cam. it takes great pics.

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the Curil T was listed for the oil-cooler seals. I can understand why someone would go the extra step and use it on the pan gasket if it is as prone to leakage as you guys say
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I used something similar in the corners last time. It's going to be interesting when I find what I did wrong.
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Well I am doing my third one...............AND THEY ALL LEAK maybe not right away......

Not at first..........but give it some time. The first 5-10 K miles was great on the first 2 (different cars)..... but then..... rear starts to leak and so does the front.

THIS TIME I AM GOING TO GIVE THE GASKET A BATH IN SEALANT!!!

P.S the pans were square. I think the gasket either gets blown out, breaks down due to heat. Not really sure why. The torque specs are pretty darn low if you ask me......
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There are two heat shields where the exhaust is near. I've seen others that do not leak. I have access to a machine shop that has one of those huge granite tables that is very flat. I'll take it to work and put it on the table. I did that with a valve cover on another vehicle of mine. We shall see. It comes off this weekend.
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Todwic please, post pics when you have done it,and a simple explanation of the process that a 4 year old can understand,would be highly appreciated.Its the next thing in my wish list.

Thank you big man!
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On the advice of others, I used the Mercedes Surface Sealing stuff. The number on the tube is "A 002 989 73 20 10". It appears to be some sort of RTV.
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Edit: Found the thread: Oil pan sealant
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Mine comes off tomorrow morning. I hope I can see what I did wrong. Mine leaked immediately.

This is Murphy's Law in action. You screw up that which takes you the most time to repair.
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Mine comes off tomorrow morning. I hope I can see what I did wrong. Mine leaked immediately.

This is Murphy's Law in action. You screw up that which takes you the most time to repair.
The sealant that was on my '84 motor was white, but I'm not opposed to the black stuff, either. Lawrence, how do you get your oil pan off? Drop the crossmember (pwr st'ring or no?) Do you brace the motor up on the strut towers? Jack it up a tad? I'm wanting to do my rod bearings at the same time, since I got the dammed thing off, or would you just slap the op gasket on w/o taking the o pan off all the way? Do you think loc tite 574 would work for the corners? I still have some of this left from my rebuild.
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Todwic, pictures coming in a few minutes.
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Supports And Things Removed

This should show what I've removed to get at it. My windage tray is cracked so I have to replace it. It was rather brittle.
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My power steering low pressure line to the cooler is so hard to get off at the cooler that I just cut it with a tubing cutter so no filings remain. I'll install about a 2 inch rubber section. It took me an hour last time to get off at the cooler. Heck with that.

The 2X4 wood is glued together with a good wood glue. Part of the load is on the two chains above; the rest is on the scissor beneath.
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Is that power steering or armstrong? do they both remove basicaly the same? Nice pics. I don't feel so daunted now.

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