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924S as a TT/DE car??

I got home from a Thunderhill High Performance Driving School last month, all jazzed to do PCA DE and Time Trialing in my '91 C2. My wife burst that bubble by asking where I would be living if I wrecked it or blew up the motor... Sooooo... I began looking around for a less expensive alternative and I noticed that a 1988 924S seemed to have a lot going for it. It has the good power, handling, and reliability from the 944and the lower cost of the 924 body style. It seems as if I could get a good one for under $5K. What do you think? It seems to me that the only downside is the size of the wheels/tires that fit under the narrow body style... Thanks for your response.

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stick with the 944, like you say, wider tires = more traction. maybe this would fit the bill.

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With some creative fender rolling, you can get wider tires underneath those skinny fenders of a 924S...

Besides, as a newbie track driver, you can still learn how to drive on narrow tires: it will make you a better driver when you switch.

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If you really want to get competitive and stay economical, early 944 or 924S is the way to go. They have both models racing 944-spec series here in CA and AZ as well as on the East Coast under NASA, and they cars even rate well in PCA autocross as well. There are several cars here in SoCal and everyone's that's run Willow or Road America in a crowd of early water-cooled P-cars is kooked.
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With some creative fender rolling, you can get wider tires underneath those skinny fenders of a 924S...

Besides, as a newbie track driver, you can still learn how to drive on narrow tires: it will make you a better driver when you switch.

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Great words Z! Learn on stock width.....That said the 944 may allow wider tires but wider is heavier and more costly. Gotta have some HP to spin more rubber!
I ran 205 and 245-16" too much!

944 will only look good and allow wide tires but can't beat a 924S!

Fender rolling is not allowed in PCA nor is grinding.

Bottom line is go with an 88 924S it is faster, lighter and has less drag than any 944na. GL! Sman
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Sman: nice wheels: are they BBS?

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Z..... Yes sir! BBS 3 pc-16" 7x8.... Thanks! Sman
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note: the 924S is nearly identical to the pre-85 944, except for the body. This means the old dashboard and a lot less weight. If I was gonna build a 944 track car, I would start with a 924S sunroof-delete coupe.
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As a visitor from the 964 forum, I want to thank you all for your replies!! Based on your comments I am going to look for a '88 924S to start with and go from there. I suspect I'll be spending more time here.

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88 is mentioned because it has 7 to 10 more HP. However it does weigh more. In PCA 87 weight min is 2779, 88 minimum is 2844.

But only doing DE events it is irrelevant on weight so a 87 924S would serve you just as well. I say this so you don't just "key in on" only an 88. 87 is identical. Only benefit an 88 will give is if you race it. Then the extra HP is needed. Sman
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This whole thread makes me smile... I'm surprised Dal hasn't chimed in yet!

lighter.. faster.. whee!
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Sman is Dal.........incognito. Stealth means everything!

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I also must add the 88 has a suspension option vs. 87 but that is an ez fix! Sman
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What suspension option is available for the '88? m030?? This option is not available on the '87?

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Yes 924 Sport Option M030 was for the 88 not to confuse it with 968 M030 sway bars. I believe the front bar M030 is 23.5 or 25.5mm. The rear bar was added to the 88 but there are 87's equipped with rear bars.
Most don't though and the front bar is 21.5mm stock for 87. 20mm pre 87 cars.

I would still change the bars to at least Turbo bars if not 968 bars!
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Sman is Dal.........incognito. Stealth means everything!

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PSYCH!!!

I was gonna call you last week- I was in Ames during the 12" snowfall over thanksgiving, so it became a no go.

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I was in "Totoland"-KS so I would have missed it! Sman
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Ofcourse when im not lookin you guys start talking about my car!!!

anyways sry to not have read or posted in a while, im saving up for a T-belt/waterpump/frontmain seal/powerstearing pump job that i need desperately and if i read about all the fun toys you guys have theres noway im ganna save money....

oh and about the smaller tires, cant you just put on some widebody panels made out of fiberglass like the ones from gt-racing? to make it look like a GTR? thats my plan to get rid on my "custom" drivers side dent;-)

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