Needing all the help I can get! Everyone and anyone that knows about the 924S, READ!!
 

I am 17 years old and have some knowledge about cars. I have on my hands a 1987 924S that has been sitting for about the last 5 years. I have looked up information and researched a little and I am planning on restoring it back to the daily driver she was when my dad drove it! It has little cosmetic damage but due to it sitting for 5 years, lord only knows what's gone wrong inside! I have started a list of need to do's before I get her started and driving again! Please comment on what you think I should do and on what I should add to the list!

- Replace water pump and gasket : $260
- Replace belts :
- Replace head gasket : $100 for head set of gaskets
- Replace hood cable
- Replace battery : $140
- Replace brakes and brake pads
- Replace tires
- Drain and flush engine tranny
- Clean all grounds parts and sensors
- New distributor cap, ignition rotor, spark plugs, and ignition wires
- New vacuum hoses and tubes
- Replace pullys
- Change oil, oil filter
- Change air filter : $45
- Drain fuel
- Replace fuel filter : $25
- Replace brake fluid : $15
- Check Oxygen sensor
- Replace oil seals

Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing everything you have to say!

of course the belts have priority. everything else on your list looks good. work your way from the most obvious items (belts, oil chg, brake fluid, etc.) down the list to those that can be done on an as-needed basis (seals, head gasket, etc)

here's a suggestion on how this might look: (using your list)

- Replace belts :
- Change oil, oil filter
- Change air filter : $45
- New distributor cap, ignition rotor, spark plugs, and ignition wires
- Drain fuel
- Replace fuel filter : $25
- Replace brake fluid : $15
- Replace brake pads
- Drain and flush transm
- Clean all grounds parts and sensors
- New vacuum hoses and tubes (as needed)
- Replace water pump and gasket : $260 (if needed)
- Check Oxygen sensor

as needed (not necessarily in that order)
- Replace head gasket : $100 for head set of gaskets
- Replace tires
- Replace pullys
- Replace oil seals
- Replace hood cable

obviously needed
- Replace battery : $140


I'm sure that others here might arrange the list a bit differently, but you did well in finding the most important things to be done. good luck and welcome to the board!

p.s. don't foget labor costs ;)

I plan to do most if not all this stuff on my own.

That's really a big reason I am doing this. There is no better way to learn it then to do it and experience it....so that is what I am planning to do. When I put on the finishing touches (which will be a black paint job with a clear coat per my deal with my mom) it will be more rewarding if I did the work to it myself!

And it has been sitting outside for between 5-6 years and was a daily driver before it sat so I can't imagine there being serious damage besides the wear and tear of sitting!

belts are most important. cleaning the grounds is also good idea. do you have reason to beleive it needs new plugs, wires, vacuum hoses, pulleys, air cleaner, and "oil seals"?
just wires and dist. cap for example could run you about $150.

you're pretty ambitious! just remember that jobs such as the timing belts and head gasket are best done under supervision of someone that has done it before. I don't know what your automotive experience is, but this isn't a job for a beginner. (not saying that you are) the belts are critical!! you'll need the belt tension gauge to do it properly. you can get lots of information from the guys here on replacing the belts and doing a search here on the subject will also yield a lot of useful info. it's good to see someone doing their best to keep another one of these cars alive. just make sure you don't plunge into the unknown waters of Porsche maintenance alone. maintenance costs on these cars are high for a reason, and it's not prestige ;)

btw: where are you located?

And the special belt tensioning gage...300-400 usd

Ronin...you know better than that! Replace oil seals when doing the belts! :D This car has sat for years and rubber deteriorates.
I would not worry about head gasket till all else is done then do a leak down test. The head gasket may still be ok and more work to replace for no need. Or do a test before the work and see if the head is leaking. At least you will know ahead that the head gasket needs replaced but if not save the cash for wheel bearings if needed, another thing to check on, see if they need packed or replaced.
I think you need to ask and shop around for parts pricing as some prices listed are too high!
Replace the WP/stat if needed.....wrong- REPLACE it!! One other thing I forgot...check the rubber brake lines. You can use OEM or SS lines. Sman

you're right. rule of thumb for the turbo (read: very high heat) is that if the car doesn't get to run at least once a week, the seals will go quick! but then again, I never owned an N/A :rolleyes: :D

hehe. too bad I'm not in the waterpump business ;)

I have a few buddies who have a lot of knowledge in this stuff and I plan to have them come over and help, they dont know that, but I do. haha

I can't start this project until summer because I am getting ready to start baseball which means no job until baseball is over....then I will have all summer to work, earn money, and blow it on my Porsche!

I live in south central Ohio by the way!

Doesnt the '87 924S models come with the built in tensioner or some such stuff? On the other board at www.924board.org there was some talk about it?

Mr Pants.....Where are you buying caps for 150 bucks!? Mine was 50 bucks.
One major characteristic of our cars is corrosion on the electrical and rubber components, therefore the need to replace the ignition parts or clean up well is advised.
Remember this car has sat for at least 5 years and if it sat outside that adds to the breakdown of parts etc. Sman:cool:

good, that'll give you plenty of time to do some research. hope all turns out well. keep us informed

he said wires AND dist cap :D

Ah! My error! Forgive my misread!:eek: Sman

forgiven. amazing I even caught it, I'm about to fall asleep sitting here as it is. g'night

Me too! I woke up at 3am and the coffee isn't doing it's job! zzzzzzzzzSman

$150 for a battery? Sam's Club has them for $38.

I would also check the trans for lube. Pull the top plug and stick your finger in.

The wheel bearings are going to be shot. You could get it running down the road for a few days or weeks but you will soon hear the rumble and clatter of rusted bearings. Especially the rears.

Think about draining the gas and flushing the fuel pump out before even putting current to it.

Don't know if the 924S has the spring loaded timing belt tensioner. No big deal if it doesn't.

I don't think that you will be blowing your money on the 924S as long as you treat it like the touring sedan it was designed to be not a street racer.

Why has it sat for five years?

No. It doesn't.

As for having your buddies help you, if they haven't done Porsches before they are essentially worthless except for tools. These cars can be nightmares. If your car is in rough shape, expect to spend at least $1,500 and probably closer to twice that in order to bring it back.

The 924S is a fairly demanding car. Treat it carefully and follow the maintenance to the letter using only high-quality (read: expensive) parts and she will be good to you. Do otherwise and she will do very expensive bad things in very short order.

I got mine when I was 20 and if it weren't a shared project with my father I'd have never have bothered.

Aaron

that's what I was wondering

It was his Dad's car and put it away when he bought a new car and has been sitting ever since then...5 years ago. Sman

I paid $60 for my POS battery at Advanced Auto Parts/Parts America. Wal-mart/Sam's Club Didn't have the size I needed at the time. I got the same warranty for the same price but less CCA and RA.

$150... He may be reffering to an Optima application, however the do not manufacture a direct replacement. I was also looking for an Optima Deep Cycle application. The only thing that I have found available for such an application is an Optima Yellow Top (deep cycle) D34 with a kit from Performance Products to mount it side ways. Overall as much as I wanted one and even though you can mount one in basically any position, I opted out of "riging to fit" situations. Eventually Optima will make batteries for the european market and supply us with something that will fit.

They are nice batteries.

Welcome to the board. It will all be worth it when the car is done....

All car batteries last from four to five years. I've found no difference in performance between a $30 battery and a $150. Then I'm not running 10,000 amps of sub woofers either.

one word, Interstate. am on my third in nine years. the first was a five year that was from the P/O dating to 90, replaced in 96. the second was a five-year that lasted for seven. just replaced two weeks ago with a 72

Re: Needing all the help I can get! Everyone and anyone that knows about the 924S, READ!!
 

You aren't off to a bad start.... lets see what we have here Your prices aren't bad for PARTS, but they neglect labor if you are going to have a shop do it.

- Replace water pump and gasket : $260
- Replace belts : About $400 +\- $50 Parts\Labor
- Replace head gasket : $100 for head set of gaskets - NOT NECESSARY UNLESS IT IS LEAKING
- Replace hood cable $35
- Replace battery : $140 - Where do you shop, that is outrageous!
- Replace brakes and brake pads Pads and rotors will set you back around $400 - $500 for decent ones.
- Replace tires
- Drain and flush engine tranny -
- Clean all grounds parts and sensors - Clean the grounds, don't mess with the sensors, the connectors get brittle with age.
- New distributor cap, ignition rotor, spark plugs, and ignition wires - about $200
- New vacuum hoses and tubes - Just replace the rubber and plastic bits. To do it right, you will be pulling the intake manifold.
- Replace pullys - NOT NECESSARY
- Change oil, oil filter $20
- Change air filter : $15
- Drain fuel - Would replace the in-tank filter as well - runs about $53
- Replace fuel filter : $25
- Replace brake fluid : $15
- Check Oxygen sensor
- Replace oil seals: $100 for the seals.

Now - First priority (as has already been said) is belts - they need to be replaced before you do anything else. Until you know what you are doing, I do not recommend doing them yourself. Conversely, If you are doing your seals and waterpump, you should do those before you do the belts.

AFJuvat

South Central Ohio? Wheres that? Is that anywhere close to Cincinnati or Mason?

South Central is about 10 minutes west from Chillicothe, about 1 hour south of Columbus and 1 1/2 hour north of Cincy.

The first things I plan to do is replace head gaskets as well as other gaskets, check and replace the rubber parts because the rubber has probably rotten away to crap, drain all the fluids, replace the upper and lower hoses from the radiator, replace the filters, replace the belts and pullys.

THEN it should start and I can take it to a shop....right?

Skip the head gasket....Do the belts and seals first thing!! All the other stuff will fall after that is done. ie: the hoses have to come off to do the belt job..... Here is a picture of the area needing the seals and you will see the importance of replacing them now. For every shaft or roller there is going to be a seal....Smanhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1073416438.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1073416456.jpg

You should not start the car until the belts have been changed.

Aaron

I know the belts need changed, that was in my post when I asked if I did these things would it be okay to start?

What ever you do don't paint up the belts and pulleys. It doesn't help.

And only use NEW tensioners. And real oil filters are a good idea too.

but it looks so purposeful! :D

If you do those things then yeah, it should be more than ready to start up.

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Whats with all the paint marks? LOL You only need what 3 marks and they are already there.

I copied this photo from another member. He did the marks. SoCal is up on this picture so he can tell you who is happy with the paint. Sman

Sorry. I missed that, completely my fault.

This is one area where I really like my 914. The 914's camshaft is gear driven. All I have to worry about is adjusting solid lifters in a work area only slightly larger than your average mail slot.

Aaron

Aw hell- sell it and get a real Porsche..

(Wow that's a real departure from ME!)

Congrats on a fine automobile purchase- You'll never be sorry once you get the PM up to snuff. apart for the already stated dont forget to replace the fluids- brake fluid etc..

GAWD I love my car.