Sorry to tell you guys. But when will you learn. Your N/A's are sorta slow. VERY awesome handeling. But learn..your cars aren't drag racers. Not fast. Yes fast than a Hyundai but come on guys. You are expecting to out drag Corvettes or something. If you want power get a turbo. Hehe ...you guys are having identity problems ;-)

I think I like Goku's choice of words better out of everyone's criticisms on this post. At least he's not bein' an ass about it like others.

http://eurospecporsche944.homestead.com/files/sig2.jpg

------------------
Porsche. Es gibt keinen Ersatz.

EuroSpec944, I've seen a video on a other fourm that a mod Honda 2dr civic race a stock 2000 or 2001 convertable automatic vett. On the street I seen people on the side watching the race begin and the civic off the line lost about 1/2 a car and was up and up in the middle of the race and at the end the civic won the race about 1/2 a car. Some hondas kick ass!! I would not race that hond civic but don't show your fear! http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif


------------------
PORSCHE There is no Substitute!
My 944 Site! http://www.skybusiness.com/dean/

[This message has been edited by 88_944 (edited 09-24-2001).]

I agree with Goku,

If you look at the power curve, the power band kicks in higher.

These car's are designed for high speed touring on AutoBahn's, not traffic light burn up's.

The difference between a Porsche and Porsche-wannabe.

Is they spend a "s**t" load of money on getting there rice cookers up to Porsche spec.

Why do you think Ferrari's don't go around burning everything in sight.

They don't need to.

You got a Porsche, there' envious.
You've got a better engineered car.
They've got bolt on bits of crap.
You've got the status from driving a Porsche.
They got nuttin'

Damn man,

There's Porsche's
and wanna be Porsche's

WORD !!!!!!!

Adrian

i think your just glorifying your car. look how different the 944 is from ANY other porsche made. most ricers wont even know what a 944 is. all they know is that the 911 is an EXOTIC car and they think that its CRAZY fast.


SHAUN

Hey Shaun !

Nope,

[QUOTE]
look how different the 944 is from ANY other porsche made.

your including the 924/968/959 in that as well are'nt you plus all the new water cooled jobbies that have come out since.

[QUOTE]
most ricers wont even know what a 944 is.


Ahhh, ignorance is bliss is'nt it.
Ignorance is also no defence if your caught breaking the law !

[quote]
all they know is that the 911 is an EXOTIC car and they think that its CRAZY fast.


The point is a "Porsche" will always be a "Porsche"

A Honda etc.etc.etc will only be a Honda
regardless what you do to it.

Peace out to the max

Adrian

your including the 924/968/959 in that as well are'nt you plus all the new water cooled jobbies that have come out since.


the 959 is NOTHING like the 944

I know,
It's nothing like a 911 either !
and it's water cooled.

Porsche sure had a good idea with that 959. Who woulda thought 20 years after they thought up of it, the same technology would be used in the 996 Turbo.

and WORD to what you said up there Adrian!!!! PORSCHE FOR LIFE! http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/biggrin.gif

http://eurospecporsche944.homestead.com/files/sig2.jpg

------------------
Porsche. Es gibt keinen Ersatz.

130 mph, in your car, ya right, on a freeway interchange, in the morning, ON YOUR WAY TO SCHOOL... guess your in some sort of a special education program because those speeds, on a freeway, in the morning, with other innocent people is just PLAIN STUPID

[This message has been edited by javier (edited 09-24-2001).]

you are making too much sense. just where do you think you are, anyways? :-)

http://home.pacbell.net/nirky/turbo_120usa.jpg

obviously, this must be Mr. Rogers Neighborhood.

[This message has been edited by javier (edited 09-24-2001).]

yooooo adrian,
Hope yout not trying to say anything bad about wannaberacer's??? :').
and Eurospec, I do believe that there are v8 mustangs that the 944(n/a) can take. It just has to have an engine as bad as my brothers, or be badged as one with a deaf man driving the porsche. No insult to you, just the people who swear by thier cars ability to be the best, because there will always be someone better than thier's.
peace out
Adrian C

OK, so we know it was an Accord, had loud exhaust, and was lowered. Now remembering that's it is already partially riced out based on those givens, isn't it also possible that the V6 badge could just as easily been more rice?

It's also entirely possible that it was a V6 and a)it's driver just didn't have the cojones, or b)the engine could be in awful shape. Not all apples are alike.

Ummm...hrm...I have to agree with you some ways and disagree with you in others. Yes...if you wax a pinto, it is still a pinto, but if your drop a 429 cobrajet into the pinto, yes, it is still a pinto, but would f up just about anything out there.

As for honda, and my opinion on them...I think they build an excellent car. Their suspension design is very cool (double wishbone front and back...well...not any more...oh well), and if modded PROPERLY (most ricers just put drop springs on them and they handle like $hit because one of the main advantages to a double wishbone set up is to allow the tire to have as large of a contact patch with the road at all times, throughout the entire range of suspension compression, granted your camber is set up correctly, and you would need to adjust your camber, most likely beyond stock bounds, with camber plates which most ricers will just look at you like "huh? WTF is that?" and go about with their bump steering poor handling but looking good because it is lowered civics) they can be made to out-handle (only in ways not limited by their FWD handi-cap) most cars out there. They build impressive motors (100 hp/L seems to be the standard for their performance models...i.e. RSX type S, now defunct civic SI, now defunct ITR, etc...not to mention the S2000 makes 120 hp/L) that are known for being extremely durable and reliable, and respond well to bolt on modification. Some how they can make their J-spec NSX type S be able to pull 1/4 miles as fast as a C5 vette, which weighs about the same and has 60 more horsepower and gobs more torque...hmmm...I wonder if they underrate the claimed power of that car.

My only qualms with hondas is they really should start to follow the market trend back to rear wheel drive (chrysler is doing it, cadillac is doing it, BMW, Mercedes, and Lincoln are probably about the only large, non sportscar manufacturers that never succombed to the whole front wheel drive thing) and its only a matter of time until everybody does it for models that really would benefit from it). I personally hate the way front wheel drive cars handle. Torque steer sucks and massive understeer sucks.

But...my point...it got lost somewhere in my ramblings there...oh yeah...I drive a 16 year old porsche that is seldom recognized for what it is (especially after I took off all of the badging), but often admired by complete strangers. Is this why I bought the car? No...it was, IMHO, the best possible way for me to spend $7600 and to get something that would bring me jollies everytime I accelerated heavily or took a turn fast enough to flip my mom's buick. Are there better, faster cars out there? Hell yes...just not for seven and a half g's. What would I rather have than my 951? A 3rd gen RX-7 with a street-ported motor, single turbo, lots of fuel, 993 brakes, racing beat suspension, and some lightweight, superwide 17" wheels with decent rubber. Unfortunately, that was out of my price range at the time I was shopping for a replacement to my 2nd gen rx-7 turbo. Do I think that rx-7's are pieces of ****? You betcha...unless you build them correctly...single turbo motor with plenty of fuel and good engine management will last a long time, but the twin turbo motor is just too damn complex (it is one of the most complicated induction systems ever put on a car...race or street) and inherently prone to failure.

Do I have any pride in the fact that I drive a porsche? Not really, all though it did help me get laid once. Do I think that it is a wonderful machine...probably the best car of its era, or at least up there? Yes I do, but I am no longer in 3rd grade and my mullet went away with cinderella and skid row. We are in new times, and cars just keep getting better. Trying to compare a V6 accord to an n/a 944 is like trying to compare a nissan 200sx SE-R to a pontiac fiero...my point? I forgot it...but the sexiest girl I have ever met in my life drives a black 200sx SE (no R) with an automatic transmission and tinted windows, and her name is katie.

So...I forgot my original point, but if somebody handed me the keys to a 1991 acura NSX and told me to get rid of the porsche, I gladly would...not because you can get the NSX for $5 grand more than a nice turbo S, but because it is a modern marvel of engineering, just as the 944 turbo was 5 years before it...but the NSX is leaps and bounds beyond it...just a little slower until they stroked the motor .2 liters. Oh...but the first thing I would do is get rid of the 15" and 16" wheels on the NSX and put some 18"'s and 19"'s on it, and then I would get a supercharger, and you have to get the obligatory "shogun" body kit, and do a double decker spoiler, SHAUN style. Anyways, if you can't already tell from my pages of pointless rambling, I am beyond tired...I haven't had a proper nights sleep in 3 days, so my seretonin is low, my heart is probably beating at a sloth-like 50 BPM, and I ate the most digusting salad I have eaten in ages tonite. Good night.

------------------
ribs, 86' 951

Two times and that's the truth Ruth !



[This message has been edited by adrian jaye (edited 09-25-2001).]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ribs:
Ummm...hrm...I have to agree with you some ways and disagree with you in others. Yes...if you wax a pinto, it is still a pinto, but if your drop a 429 cobrajet into the pinto, yes, it is still a pinto, but would f up just about anything out there.

Hey Rib's,
Whatcha on man. Ya need some sleeeeeepy time.

Loved the novel, am eagerly awaiting the paperback edition.

Eagerly read, but the point still stands

A Porsche will always be a Porsche

1) put a v12, turbo, injection, warp drive into a Porsche, It'll be a sooped up Porsche

2) put a v12, turbo with starburst into a Honda, It'll still be a piece of boosted up Jap crap.


I do agree with what you said about de-badging. Mine is the S2 Cab in red, and the ammount of people who think it's a Ferrari is un believable.

The lot of the Porsche shape is in the tailgate area, which is now a boot. So unless you see the word Porsche on the back. I could easily be mistaken for Magnum in his 308 !

Peace

Adrian

Jesus christ...the *******'s on this board almost make me not want to get a 951.

Anyways...EuroSpec944, nice kill. We all know it is stupid to speed on the highway...so I'm not going to say anything about that. For I have hit my rev-limiter in 5th gear (137 mph indicated) in my '94 Prelude Si I had. Watch out though...some people swap out the regular 4 cylinder Accord motor and put in the H22A Prelude VTEC motor and there is a large aftermarket for that motor...

-Kierf.
--'79 Prelude.
--preludeparts.com

By that you mean ???

Kierf (updsidedown)?(squigly thing that looks like the symbol from the book in the movie never ending story)?...my little sister's friend is building a 2.2L turbo prelude vtec motor for his mid 90's accord EX. So far, he has the suspension done (and done right with sways, shocks/struts, springs, and a professional alignment), the obligatory loud ass exhaust, intake, and some hideous body kit. The thing should scream when he gets the new motor in their...it should put out in excess of 300 HP.

BTW...what does this: "Jesus christ...the *******'s on this board almost make me not want to get a 951." mean...and quoting orgasmo...Where?!?.

Adrian Jaye...I have never seen an 86' civic with a cracked to all hell dash, a water pump that leaks and causes catastrophic damage to a motor, a timing belt that needs replacing every 30-45K miles, a $600 tool necessary to tension it correctly, motor mounts that have collapsed, etc. etc...but I have seen an 86' 951 that has...and it is sitting in my driveway. So...my point...if somebody handed you the keys to an 89 turbo S or a 92 NSX, both in the same condition, and said "take your pick"...which one would you opt for? I would go for the honda, but that is just me. I appologize for my long ranting post last night...it came from a lack of sleep and a lack of consumption of alcohol this past weekend.

Putting a V12 in either a 944 or a honda would require massive amounts of modification to the frame and probably a 1 foot stretch of the body in the engine bay...I think it would look funny. Now a V8...what do you think of Porolets?

------------------
ribs, 86' 951