blue headlights?

[fty]

Anyone try the new sylvania that have that "Bro" blue tint? I was wondering if they are any brighter and if they are worth the twenty bucks?-thanks -chris





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[Spooky Pooky]

I picked up some cheesy ones made in Taiwan, complete with new sealed beam thingee and it makes a ton of difference. I can actually see at night now!

Marie

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[Sergio]

If you are going to spend some money in order to see better, I would firstupgrade to the hella's on pelicans site... I love mine, made a huge difference... Remember that the cheap "Blue Bulbs" are still 55watt lows and 65watt highs... I think Pelican can sell you 55/100's or 80/100's I have the 55/100's and its like having the sun come up when you click on those highbeams...The higher wattage will outdo any color enhanced low watt bulb.

Im thinking of getting the driving/fog lights that are on this site too. WAYNE!! can I put 100W in the driving lampside and have a total of 400W coming off the front???

[IceShark]

There are no ifs, ands, or buts: blue quartz halogen bulbs put out less light than a comparable bulb in clear. That tint is filtering out light output. And the eye has a hard time resolving objects in blue light, so you are even worse off than just the reduced light output. But if you want to fall for the carny scam, that is fine by me.

Sergio, yes, you can burn 100 watt H-3s in the combo fog/driving light in the drive side. I've been doing it for 10 years, no problem, even on 4 hour, more or less, straight burn time across MT.

But if you are going to burn overwatt bulbs you better upgrade the wiring to much heavier gauge or the voltage drop will leave you little better off than 55/60 watt standard bulbs.

As the voltage drops the light output will drop at ~ the 3.5th power. So if you get 100% at 13.5v you will only get 67% at 12.2v. And your voltage drop could well be even worse than this. Mine dropped down to 10.5v when I first tried burning 400 watts in 4 beams on stock wiring.

[adrial]

What diameter headlamp does the 944 use?
5" ??

Im wondering because I've seen the hella setup on pelican sold locally for a similar price - shipping + getting it immediately..

--Adrial

[IceShark]

7". Make sure you get the new Hella Super E-Code lens or you will not be as happy, the other Hella's are not the best. I like Cibies better, but both are good.

[pvvd72s]

hella's are the best.

[adrian jaye]

Originally posted by IceShark:
There are no ifs, ands, or buts: blue quartz halogen bulbs put out less light than a comparable bulb in clear. That tint is filtering out light output. And the eye has a hard time resolving objects in blue light, so you are even worse off than just the reduced light output. But if you want to fall for the carny scam, that is fine by me.


I'm glad someone's got some sense.
Above is absolutly correct.
The AA (over here in the UK) also did a study and they siad that though they were not unsafe they did not increase output if anything the gave less output.

IF you want blue headlights you need the real mcoy, Xenon one's, think Porsche's call them litronic ?? about a grand or so and not as an aftermarket fix.

I think the responses for having good ouptu are probably placebo effects

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[scottewid]

I replaced my standard sealed beams with Hella H2s. They're the US street legal version of the H4. I'm extremely happy with them. They're not super laser beams of death, but now my 86 951 has better night vision than my 97 Saab 900t (and pretty much every other car I've ever had), it's street legal, and oncoming cars are never bothered by them.

Got em' at JC Whitney for under $100. Don't really remember, but I think they've got 55/65 watt bulbs and low and high beams are great.

[fty]

I guess my original bulbs were real **** cuase these sylvania put out atleast twice as much light....they really dont look blue at all on the other hand....its a bright white light............-chris

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[IceShark]

A couple things. The new Osram/Sylvania blue bulbs are not tinted as heavy as the others so aren't quite as bad. But if you got the same bulb in the clear XtraVision or Super they are better on light output. The blue ones were introduced because Osram/Sylvania was tired of losing the blue bulb sales to all the other guys.

That "base" bulb in clear or blue is actually better than the prior ones in most cases because it was optimized with new technology but it is still US legal on lumin output so there is no miracle going on here.

Another thing is you have to compare new bulbs to new bulbs. The halogen regenerative cycle isn't 100% perfect so as the bulbs age tungsten gets deposited on the glass envelope and the filament gets thinner, both of which cut down on light output. Finally the bulb standards are +/- 15% from target output.

So you can see there are a bunch of reasons your new bulbs look brighter than your old - they probably are! But if you had gone with clear bulbs that put out at the top rating you would be even better. And those bulbs can be had for under the $20 you paid. That is one of the points I'm trying to make.

[ribs]

You can get a universal Philips HID kit for ~$350. These are the real McCoy, but do not have the autolevelers and some of the other nifty features of the HIDs, but they DO increase light output substantially and have that hell-of-cool purple/blusish look from the side and whiter than Colin Powell look from dead on. I don't what would be involved in installing them since I was under the impression that our cars have sealed beams, but you may be able to find unsealed beams in the 7" round size.

My plan was to eventually get the 924 carerra GT clear lenses and buckets, and put these philips HID lights in those, but alas, I no longer have income so I will have to wait until next summer to start tinkering with my car again.

You most definitely will have to upgrade your wiring and use a relay, and I don't know if these HID's come with highbeams.

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