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speedracing944 03-16-2004 02:18 PM

HELP! trying to remove fuel rail and injectors
 
I am in the process of doing my belts and while I am doing them I figured it would be an excellent time to renew all the seals in the cam housing and the cam housing to head gasket. The problem is I am not sure how hard to pull on the fuel rail to get the injectors out. I have all the bolts removed from the rail, and the fuel supply and return lines are off. The rail wiggles back and forth but I don't want to pull on it hard enough to break the injectors. Any advice? are they usually a pain?

Thank you in advance for your help.
speed

speedracing944 03-16-2004 02:34 PM

Well I got it out. How do you clean the injectors? Soak them in gas or kerosene? They are blackened quite a bit along with the hole they sit in.

Thanks.

TCMdocs944 03-16-2004 03:08 PM

The "blackening" is probably part of the seals that has melded with the hole. Carb cleaner on a q-tip works pretty good.

The injectors/rail is hard to pull out....seems like a bit too hard when the seals are old AND when you renew the seals it seems like you have to press "too hard" to seat them. Just keep it straight.


There is an excellent artical by AFjuvat in the tech section of pelican parts that goes over injector cleaning 101.

TSNAPCRACKLEPOP 03-16-2004 04:30 PM

be sure to use atf as a lubricant on replacement, saves breaking them.

speedracing944 03-16-2004 06:11 PM

Thanks guys. I will read the article. The seals actually look good. They don't have any knicks or tears in them but I will replace then anyways. I just got the cam assembly off and on the bench. The gasket was totally shot but everything inside looks brand new.

Thnks again for your advice.

shocker1322 03-16-2004 06:20 PM

Be careful on the q-tip idea. I tried that and dropped one into the intake, ended up pulling it off and cleaning it. But if you are doing the seals, might as well clean the holes when the intake is off.

vital-transform 03-16-2004 07:24 PM

I just did mine yesterday (FISeals) and the new seals and hats did not look at all like the old ones so I double checked the part # several times and even cross referanced a few catalogs to get a pictire online and they are correct even though they look larger than the seals that came off runs like a champ now!
I also found that carb cleaner removes the black paint from the injecters as well - will need to protect them from rust somehow in the future?

rammstein 03-16-2004 10:17 PM

I 2nd the injector seals looking wrong- I went so far as to have pelican send a 2nd set, thinking the one I got must be wrong. Turns out it is fine. See Pics here:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146102&highlight=fool+m anaged

And I used carb cleaner and q-tips to clean the injector contact points (see my pics, they were quite dirty) and I too must recommend you be careful not to drop them in. I didn't, but it occurred to me that if you did, it would suck. :)

Why do I have insomnia? WHY!?!?!?
-Ramm

vital-transform 03-17-2004 05:18 AM

there is a 924s listed on ebay right now and the reason e is selling it is a bolt dropped into the intake! some great pics of what happens....Porsche : 924

vital-transform 03-17-2004 05:21 AM

Item number: 2465549747

TCMdocs944 03-17-2004 07:21 AM

Ahhrrrrhhhhhggg....



My 44 eats Q-tips for breakfast!http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/burn.gif


Sometimes you guys worry too much.

(I guess I worry too little sometimes)




BTW-
If you are that concerned just fill the hole with BB's until it is full so that the Q-tip cannot fall into the cylinder. *










BTWBTW-*Just kidding
:D

TSNAPCRACKLEPOP 03-17-2004 02:57 PM

bb's?????????????` like blatz beer???????????

TCMdocs944 03-17-2004 03:40 PM

I guess beer would work better than BB's ;-)


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