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Texas944 06-05-2004 07:56 PM

Broken sensor housing
the housing that the two sensors sit in at the back of the engine has broken away - looks like one bolt fell out and it was too much for the other to hold - would this cause the engine to just quit and then start back up only when it felt like it?
Does anyone have one of these housings that I could buy, and how much?

todwic 06-05-2004 08:22 PM

Yep, that would cause it. you should remove your sensors and make sure they are ok. They are the speed and reference sensors. One lets your DME know when TDC is achieved and the other counts the flywheel teeth to let DME know the RPMs of the engine. I have the bracket. $10 plus s/h. it's for a reg 944. not S2 or 924.

SoCal Driver 06-05-2004 10:47 PM

Todwic knows all about broken sensors.

todwic 06-06-2004 11:03 AM


Originally posted by SoCal Driver
Todwic knows all about broken sensors.
yep. learned it all the hardest way there is. I didn't even know there were sensors there when I changed out my flex plate. Wondered where all these spools of copper wire came from. I'll knock the price of the bracket down to $10 even, as long as it doesn't cost more than a couple bucks to ship.

SoCal Driver 06-06-2004 11:18 AM

Didn't know? Not that I didn't mention it to you a few times before you dug into the car.

todwic 06-06-2004 11:48 AM

hehe, yeah, you did. Heed, I did not. cuss self, I did aplenty. Listen next time. Probably.

todwic 06-06-2004 03:27 PM

and I'll throw in instructions from the fact. manual on how to set your bracket so that the TDC pin doesn't sheer you TDC sensor off. Don't ask me how I know what happens if you set the bracket wrong. Just don't ask.

ronniebaldino 06-06-2004 05:33 PM

Not to high-jack your post but when I took these two sensors out one of them was not connected to anything. The one that is closer to the drivers side. What does it do and isn't it supposed to be plugged in????

todwic 06-06-2004 05:53 PM

The one nearest the engine marks TDC by waiting for a metal pin to fly by that's attached to your flywheel. One nearest the driver marks RPMs by counting the teeth of your starter ring. I don't see how it ran w/o it being hooked up since you have to have 200 RPM to get the fuel pump to run.

Texas944 06-06-2004 10:44 PM

Todwic - sounds like a hell of a deal - hook me up!
There is a third wire screwed into the bracket - what does it do?

todwic 06-06-2004 11:55 PM

It makes you ask more questions. J/K man, it's prolly a ground. Mine didn't have a wire hooked to it. Prolly something your p/o did or my p/o didn't do. <p>Now to business: Send M.O. or Cash (no checks plz) to <p>Todd Seaman<br>9360 N. Blackstone spc 117<br>Fresno, CA 93720

SoCal Driver 06-07-2004 10:40 AM


Originally posted by ronniebaldino
Not to high-jack your post but when I took these two sensors out one of them was not connected to anything. The one that is closer to the drivers side. What does it do and isn't it supposed to be plugged in????
The 'S' model, double overhead cams, uses only one sensor for both the speed and the reference.

The extra sensor on cars after 1985 is used for dealer diagnostics -- sometimes.

With an 'S' it's very important to keep tabs on the chain tensioner pad, chain and timing belt.

ronniebaldino 06-07-2004 12:48 PM

Doing the timming belt once I put the clutch back in. I am going to look at the pads and chain then. Should I do the stuff on the head before or after the belts?

Thanks for the heads up on the other sensor. I was wondering what was going on with that thing??? Should I even put it back in? I guess it will plug the hole and that is better than nothing.

ronniebaldino 06-07-2004 12:53 PM

I had two ground wires running off the far passenger side of the bracket.

Hope that helps. Ground wires "should" be brown.

SoCal Driver 06-07-2004 12:53 PM

The "extra" sensor can be left off. I don't thnk the dealer even use it any more. But then who can afford to take their car to a dealer!

I think that the bracket for the single sensor is different than the one for the two sensors. Then maybe not. Picture?

todwic 06-07-2004 05:28 PM

Send me your extra sensors. I seem to break about 5 a year.

ronniebaldino 06-08-2004 06:19 AM

On that note do I have to set the clearance after I take them out?? The bracket hasn't moved but the sensors are out. Do I just slide them in?

todwic 06-08-2004 07:54 AM

As long as the bracket doesn't move, your good.

todwic 06-08-2004 08:30 AM

Here's that gasleak I tried to post some time a go. 3/4" low pressure nat. gas. Right in the middle on a Naval Graduate School, in Montery.

todwic 06-08-2004 08:34 AM

Here's another:

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