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Don't hate me,but....

Is it a 924 turbo or is it a 931 ? Are they the same car ? If so why two names ? If not whata re he differences ?

Forgive my ignorance,but Ihave read so much that I am totally confused, Straighten me out please !

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It's been my understanding that the 931 designation is a factory/dealer thing and not what was used to advertise them. Same as the 944 Turbo and the 951.
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924 = 924 N/A (audi based motor)
931 = 924 Turbo (Internal Porsche model designation)
924S = 924 N/A (early 944 motor)

944 = 944
944S = 944 (16 valve engine)
951 = 944 Turbo (Internal Porsche model designation)
944S = 944 (3.0L 16 valve engine)

Much like the 911 confusion. Depending on the year/ model they are refered to as (911, 964, G50, 993, 996 etc.) That is the topic for another post.
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Actually the 924S is mostly the same as the same year 944 with the exceptions of body flairs, front suspension, wheels and some of the interior. I wouldn't lump it in with the pre 944 924's.
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What engine is the 944S2 as opposed to the 944S?
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S is just a 16v 2.5L, S2 is 16v 3.0L
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Quote:
Originally posted by ronniebaldino
924 = 924 N/A (audi based motor)
931 = 924 Turbo (Internal Porsche model designation)
924S = 924 N/A (early 944 motor)

944 = 944
944S = 944 (16 valve engine)
951 = 944 Turbo (Internal Porsche model designation)
944S = 944 (3.0L 16 valve engine)

Much like the 911 confusion. Depending on the year/ model they are refered to as (911, 964, G50, 993, 996 etc.) That is the topic for another post.
For the last one, you mean
944S2 - 944 (3.0L 16 valve engine)

Also - don't forget about the 1988 944 TurboS or 951S (same 2.5L engine as 951, but with a bigger turbo and other internals)

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Wrote it quick. Sorry, didn't even notice the missing 2 sorry. Left out the 951S as it is even more confusing as it was a seperate model for 1 yer?? then replaced the reg 951 and lost the S. I put it in then erased it as I couldn't sum it up in a quick line.
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There was also a 2.7 944 in 89 which was the last year of the 944. I believe these were sold in the UK as the 944 lux.

Here is an exhaustive list by Kevin Gross:
http://944faq.986.org/KevinGross/ModelOutline.htm
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Another note is that some of the different models were delivered to Canada a year before the US.
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There was also a 2.7 944 in 89 which was the last year of the 944. I believe these were sold in the UK as the 944 lux.

Here is an exhaustive list by Kevin Gross:
http://944faq.986.org/KevinGross/ModelOutline.htm
Correct! (I forgot about that one!!)

For the model year 1989, In the USA all 8 valve non-turbo models had 2.7 liters of displacement. (So the lineup for 1989 was three models: 2.7l 8v 944, 3.0l 16v 944S2, and 2.5l 944 Turbo)

Oh, and for 1989, the only turbo engine available was the bigger 'turbo S' motor, but for 1989, they dropped the "S" ending.

IMHO, if you are looking for an 8-valve non-turbo, the 1989 2.7 is the model to get. Performance very close to the 87-88 944S, without the extra complications of the 16-valve head.

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The Lux designation was a sort of option package thing designating the more luxurious model. Probably velour cloth (pinstripes maybe??), sunroof etc. I believe this was available the majority of the model run in some other markets and not related directly to the displacement increase.
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I thought G50 was the tranny code? I've never heard of a 911 G50, but of a 911 with a G50...But I agree, the 911 naming scheme is a bit over the top.
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Yes, that is correct, the G50 was the code for a 911 tranny. However, the '74 - 89 cars all have simillar bodies and the engines were upgraded a number of times over the years. This breaks the years up into groups by engine displ. or some other difference i.e. 2.7 cars (1974 - 77), SC (78-83), 3.2 (84-89). All of these cars shared the same 915 transmission. The last couple of years of the 3.2 cars (87-89) the G50 transmission replaced the old 915. Being that there were no other major changes to the car these desirable cars with the new tranny are often refered to as G50 cars. Sorry for the confusion.

Hey, no one even brought up the 924 Carrera(s)
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