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84 944 to 951 brakes upgrade

Hi,

please help me with this:

What I need to install 951 calipers on my 1984 944 ?

let me know

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I would just like to point out that this upgrade is an overkill.

I tracked my 84 NA extensively years ago. Fluid/pad upgrade is all that's necessary even at the tracks that are hardest on the brakes.
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I agree with 1.2 gees. BUT if you still want to upgrade than the search button is the keeper of your answer.
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If you wanna upgrade your brakes get some nice rotors and pads and SS brake line and youre good.
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If you wanna upgrade your brakes get some nice rotors and pads and SS brake line and youre good.
I believe you will need the 951 spindles as well....
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And I have a friend selling ALL of the things you need. Let me know if you're interested. I imagine he'd let go of the spindles (86), rotors/calipers, and brake lines in the front for $300 +shipping.
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Why is it that every question on here has some yokel that says "use the search feature". For crying out loud, if everyone just used the search feature, there'd be no need for the forums any more, nobody would have to talk about anything, and you could just have a database like Clark's Garage. There's a peace of mind that comes from an actual dialog with someone that's done the procedure before that a "FAQ" approach can't address, hence the value of the forums.

That said, to upgrade the early style brakes you need to also upgrade the spindles to the post-1987 ones to accommodate the larger calipers and rotors. From what I've been told, this is a bit of a PITA, but is certainly do-able. I have contemplated this upgrade as well and have been told repeatedly that it is overkill because of the lightness of the na cars. I am, however, installing a Callaway turbo kit on it that should produce about 300 hp at the wheels when all is said and done and will consequently yield much higher speeds, so this upgrade might end up being necessary. I'll post what I find when I start tinkering - should be over the next several months.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do. I might consider just upgrading the rotors to the drilled ones, good pads, and clean up the calipers. Add the braided stainless steel lines as well and you should be able to brake VERY hard without problem all day long.
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Actually, you have two choices here, if you upgrade to the 87MY and upwards spindles you will also need the lower control arms
as Porsche changed the steering geometry in 87 to accomodate ABS. This also means that unless you change the rear suspension arms or fit spacers you will need two different offset wheels; for the front and for the rear. Using the 1986 Turbo spindles and the lower control arms will work and retain the older offset so Fuchs wheels can be used. I am not sure, but believe that 15" wheels will not fit Turbo brakes.
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If I read that last post right then ANY 87 - car will take the front and rear turbo calipers and rotors without any other parts?

I thought you needed the spindles for all N/A years?
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On an early NA you would want 86 turbo spindles. II want to say that late offset suspension for the NA would need late offset suspension pieces from the turbo (87 up).

A lot of 15 inch wheels will clear 86 turbo brakes, cookies being one of them, but I think that some don't.

PS: Doing all 4 corners is absulutely overkill, even more so than doing just the fronts, BUT I have a friend who has those too so let me know if you still want to do it.
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