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Gauge cluster is out!

So I got the instrument panel out & (apparently) didn't break anything (thank you Clark's garage ).

2 questions:

1. What are the direct replacement lights for the directionals, high beam indicator etc? They are all the same bulb, I just don't know what it is.

2. On the top left of my gauge cluster there is an indicator window blacked out and no bulb behind it. Obviously for an option I do not have. Does anyone know what goes in that window? My guess is the ABS light.

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a 194 is the recommended replacement but after the thread on the super bright LEDs I'd like to give those a try. I wouldn't go with a higher wattage bulb than a 194 'cause you will probably melt stuff. Also search Clark's Garage for the article on brightening your dash lights - must read for what you are doing (got to fix those nasty light guides, makes a big difference.)

The warning lamps are W1.2W (ECE) or 2721 (Mazda)

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Use 194 replacement LED's...MUCH MUCH MUCH better lighting...and you can choose your color.
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are the dash lights outside the gauge cluster also 194's? If so I might try switching to red (miss the cool cockpit effect of my old Bimmer)

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Not sure....haven't gotten that far yet...lol.
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Which dash lights toolboy? In my early ALL the gauges use 194s, but the lights behind the heater control etc are not. Since it doesn't work I haven't replaced them...couldn't tell you what they are.
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I actually have a late 944, was curious about the heater controls etc. - if I can't easily switch those to red as well I will probably just try the white LEDs, I hate seeing two different colors on the dash

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mackenzie- I considered using LEDs. I have seen single LED non-directional bulbs, 4 bulb clustersm and 6 bulb clusters. Which have you used?

I already resurfaced my reflectors, and it made a HUGE difference.
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On my car there are three bigger bulbs on the bottom that utilize the reflective bulb housings. There are several other bulbs that luminate the directionals; etc. They are much smaller. These are the bulbs I am talking about.

I appreciate the help.

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i put LEDs in my bottom 3 illumination spots (i have an 85.5), but they are stupid dim. I think the fact that they are directional lighting is not helping because the main beam is is not being absorbed into those reflective mirror things. Instead of using more money to fix that, how can I make these work? Shave down the side of the bulb? resurface the mirror?

I didnt wire them in...i bought the push in bulb replacement ones..if i can bend them somehow (likely impossible cuse they have hard plastic bottoms) to face more towards the plastic it would work better.
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What bulbs did you buy, exactly, Blue? LED's are remarkably bright...you shouldn't really have that big a problem unless you're running an odd voltage...
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The dash lights on the late 944 are 2W. The conventional brightness fix is to use the 4W bulbs found in the side markers that are the same physical size.
Tried that before i tried LEDS... but it caused a "hmm whats that burning smell".
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Installing LED's is pretty tricky, I ended up making my own set for the late dashes. You have to face them straight down. You are best off buying a few LED's, 3 resistors, and 3 new bulb holders, and making your own set. Depending on preference, you will need either 2 or 3 LED's per bulb holder.
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