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944S or not?

Is there a way to tell a 944S from an N/A by the VIN? I was looking for items for my 944S and saw this car and had to look at it. The badge says S but the engine screams 944 N/A. I suspect its been rebadged. I sent a email to the seller saying something is wrong.

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Looks like a 2.5NA to me.
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Yeah... the engine is a regular 8 valve (single overhead cam) 2.5 liter NA... for sure.

However, it's just as likely that the car was re-engined rather than re-badged. If so, a VIN search would actually tell you that this car is (or was originally) a 944S.

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with that "wood" dash, i'd pass on it anyways.

Yeah, it could be an engine swapped car. Does the side trim say "16 Ventiler"? I can't tell from the side pics. The resolution on my computer here at work sucks.
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MAS may be correct, but in any case the value of the 944S is the engine. TO call a 944S with a 8 valve NA replacement an S would be silly and misleading.
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I sent the seller a message, may just be an honest mistake. A lot of these Ma and Pa stores really don't have a clue about what they're selling....
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MAS may be correct, but in any case the value of the 944S is the engine. TO call a 944S with a 8 valve NA replacement an S would be silly and misleading.
To be fair to them, they may not actually know. Especially if the engine swap was done by a previous owner. Even with the engine swap, the car would still, for registration purposes, still technically be a 944S, I think.

I could easily imagine a scenario where someone has (or buys) a 944S with a blown engine, and opts for the cheaper 8 valve as a replacement.


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when they swapped the engine they SHOULD have swapped out that ugly wood dash trim !
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looking at the pictures, I can't see the 16 Ventiler on the sides. I'm thinking rebadged, could have at least used the turbo one.
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Rebadge... the vin shows 2.5L L4 FI SOHC 8V
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Rebadge... the vin shows 2.5L L4 FI SOHC 8V
There you go... then there's not much excuse for calling it an "S", in my opinion. Unless, this car has more that one VIN... if it was made from several cars ... then there's even less excuse.


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Not to mention it is an automatic....
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could be he bought the car like that and doesn't know. there was and still is a con artist business in taking base models and converting them to try to pass them off as rare models. Look at all the 60's mucle cars. Lots of fake SSs, GT, Shelbys, Super Bees out there.
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could be he bought the car like that and doesn't know. there was and still is a con artist business in taking base models and converting them to try to pass them off as rare models. Look at all the 60's mucle cars. Lots of fake SSs, GT, Shelbys, Super Bees out there.

..........and Carrera RS clones
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