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EricMcIntire 08-27-2004 05:09 PM

engine removal.. HELP (with pics)
 
OK! I've read all the posts... I still need help.. I've unbolted the torque tube from the bell housing, the engine is stripped completely, I even unbolted the entire oil pan (I think, although I still can't get it off, it seems to be stuck where the bell housing is)... I can't get the friggin bar out, I've been yanking and pulling all different angles and it wont budge, it won't come forward because of the oil pan.. I am determined to get it out the top, I started to unbolt the crossmember but I kept turning and turning and the bolt wouldn't come all the way out. plus I dont want to mess with the steering. any help would be appreciated.. I've taken some pics to show exactly how torn apart the motor is.

EricMcIntire 08-27-2004 05:13 PM

pics
 
pics aren't working

Wolf1 08-27-2004 05:16 PM

Re: engine removal.. HELP (with pics)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by EricMcIntire
I've unbolted the torque tube from the bell housing, the

So, you have the transaxle out now....right?

EricMcIntire 08-27-2004 05:18 PM

wheres that?

Wolf1 08-27-2004 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EricMcIntire
wheres that?

Wheres what?..the transaxle? Its the part in the back, with the axle shafts connected to it.

EricMcIntire 08-27-2004 05:23 PM

ohhh no, I haven't touched the tranny... the haynes doesn't mention it... but then again the haynes says to go out the bottom...

Wolf1 08-27-2004 05:26 PM

Well, in that case.....

1. you wont be able to slide the tube back because of the trans.
2. you cant slide the engine forward because of the crossmember.
3. you will either have to pull the crossmember or the transaxle.

:D

EricMcIntire 08-27-2004 05:26 PM

here are some pics:

http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/ericmcintire/DSCF0240.JPG
http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/ericmcintire/DSCF0241.JPG
http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/ericmcintire/DSCF0242.JPG
http://www.angelfire.com/darkside/ericmcintire/DSCF0244.JPG

carsontc 08-27-2004 05:27 PM

then what was this about?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/179759-how-do-i-drop-tranny.html

Wolf1 08-27-2004 05:28 PM

Re: pics
 
Quote:

Originally posted by EricMcIntire
pics aren't working

There doesn't seem to be any pics hosted at that address....

EricMcIntire 08-27-2004 05:29 PM

that was before I got the haynes manual.... argh.... and now I dont know why those links aren't working... it should say angelfire.com/darkside/ericmcintire/dscf0240.jpg
angelfire.com/darkside/ericmcintire/dscf0241.jpg
angelfire.com/darkside/ericmcintire/dscf0242.jpg
angelfire.com/darkside/ericmcintire/dscf0244.jpg

Wolf1 08-27-2004 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by carsontc
then what was this about?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179759


It was just a test...to see if we were paying attention..:D

EricMcIntire 08-27-2004 05:30 PM

screw it they aren't working... I'll try again later

carsontc 08-27-2004 05:31 PM

Re: engine removal.. HELP (with pics)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by EricMcIntire
OK! I've read all the posts
did you read this one?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/128145-944-engine-removal-out-top.html

Wolf1 08-27-2004 05:36 PM

Ok Eric,......I think I see the problem.

You are following the Haynes procedure, except for one important step, ok maybe a couple of steps.

Somewhere in the procedure for engine removal it will instruct you to remove the crossmember. I realize you want to go out the top and so it would seem like the crossmember wouldn't be in the way. However.......as you are painfully discovering, it is still in the way!!!
I'm not saying its impossible to yank it up out of there......but its not going to be easy and you will probably break/bend something in the process.

carsontc 08-27-2004 05:36 PM

and this:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/115046-engine-removal.html

EricMcIntire 08-27-2004 05:44 PM

fine fine! I was lying I didn't see ALL the posts... anyways.. any step by steps for crossmember removal?

EricMcIntire 08-27-2004 05:45 PM

where is the clutch housing? I thought the guy disconnected EVERYTHING... the only thing attached is that pole..

SoCal Driver 08-27-2004 05:45 PM

Drop the cross member. This has to come out wither you take the engine out the top or the bottom.

Unbolt the engine mounts. Don't unbolt the spindles from the struts. Drop the A-arms leaving them attached to the spindles. Mark the rear A-arm bracket where it rests on the chassis so you can get it back in the same location. Yes you have to unbolt the steering link at the steering rack. Take the bolt all the way out and don't loose it. You also have to unbolt the sway bar supports at the chassis.

Only takes a few inches for the pan to clear the cross member to pull the engine out the top. Now if you plan to drop it out the bottom disconnect the tie rods and A-arm ball joint to drop the cross member completely out of the way. Leave the struts and the spindles attached to the car.

WaA420 08-27-2004 05:49 PM

simple 944 engine removal
 
You have to take loose the steering and the four big bolts that hold in the cross member. Then you take out the four littler bolts holding the rear of the control arm up and push it down. Don't keep bending the engine around before the input shaft is clear or you may bend it. And you DON"T want to have to put in a new torque tube.

Russell


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