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1981 944 ... #12 off the line! Needs help!

The car has been in storage for about 2 years (blaspheme...I know!). I replaced the battery, and it will turn over, but not fire.

What all do you recommend I do to get it back on the road?
Old 01-02-2005, 10:34 PM
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check the usual suspects...

is the AFM hooked up? (wont run if it's not on there)
are you getting spark? is the coil good? spark plugs?
are you getting fuel? is the fuel pump running?

the usual suspects.
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1981? There were no 944s in '81, especially not US cars. Even if yours is a Euro, still no 1981 production model. Oh, and welcome to Pelican .
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actually, i think there were a few built in 81. they were purpose built for racing/experimenting, but porsche continued to call them 924's in order to be eligible to race.
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well he prolly does have an 81. Some where manufactured then to compete in the 924 class (car could have been set for a Carrera GT model but then switched at last moment). And its #12, so they could have been the very first models of 944s.

My car is #829 off the production line for the first batch of 20,000 that went under the all markets category (there was US, Rest of World which was euro, and all markets.) I got lucky I guess cuse I have mostly european stuff on my car, and my motor has 10.6:1 compression instead of the 9.7:1.
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How can you tell what number yours is? My vin is:

WPOAA0949DN460788

Is it in there somewhere?
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How can you tell what number yours is? My vin is:

WPOAA0949DN460788

Is it in there somewhere?
Your chassis says that you are a Porsche coupe 2 liter (...maybe cuse the early models where designed from the 924 chassis?? )with seat belts only (no airbags), model 944 (the 9 after the 94 is just a test code or filling number), made in 1983, produced from the Neckarsulm
plant, and the 4 after the DN is the 3rd digit of vehicle designation (hence the 944, if you had a 1 there, you would have had 959 instead of 949, because the 95 matches with the 1, making 951, which would designate your car a turbo model). 6 designates your body/engine combo, and the last 4 digits are your serial number. the 6 could be part of that, im not sure. Since there were only 5,506 944s sold that year in the US, you are the 788th car that rolled of the line for the US market.

Mine is WPOZZZ94ZFN400689, which means Im a 85 model 944 built at neckarsulm, and I am the 689th late model car out of 17,553 that were sold around the world, excluding the united states.

My motor said m44/05 and the second row of numbers says 41F 00889, which put my car under the category of all markets, with a manual transmission and number 889 out of 20000 of those type of motors built, which means my car is #689, and my motor is #889. So those 200 motors inbetween those numbers, were either put in other markets, other types of car (ones designated with auto tranny perhaps) or spare motors for parts.

Im going to stop now cuse I feel bad hi-jacking this guys thread. If anyone wants me to do this, I'll start another thread and post the link to the info I found.
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I would be interested in that link....
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Hey...let's get back on topic!!! Help me get it started!!

Nynor - you know your Porsche history...kudos

Nabeel - thanks for welcoming me to the forum (note the sarcasm!) - the VIN # isWP0AA098DN450012 !!

It was a production test car used for 30,000 miles on the track in Weissach w/ numerous things added/changed for testing.

Brando - thanks for the advice, but for the new guy..what is the "AFM"?!!

Geo - I live on Lake Conroe...email me procamp@consolidated.net


Anyway, enough ribbing and what not, I appreciate all the help I can get. The Haynes book will only go so far!

If anyone has any other suggestions let me know.

Thanks,

Bill
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yeah i was about to say..that VIN doesnt match for a 944 or a 924 spec. 98 doesnt fit with anything lol.



http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/4786/VINAnat.html

there ya go Tim.

Im going to make a new thread of it now
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Welcome aboard Bill. Sorry I can't be of much help, but if and when you do get it to fire, I'd have the belts changed asap. BTW, your last name wouldn't happen to start with a J would it? Just curious, I have a few friends that are from Conroe, one used to live on the lake.
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He has a digit missing WP0AA098DN450012 Only 16 digits should be 17.
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Did she start when put in storage?

Check tightness of all spark wires (esp coil)?
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Re: Hey...let's get back on topic!!! Help me get it started!!

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Nynor - you know your Porsche history...kudos

Nabeel - thanks for welcoming me to the forum (note the sarcasm!) - the VIN # isWP0AA098DN450012 !!

It was a production test car used for 30,000 miles on the track in Weissach w/ numerous things added/changed for testing.

Brando - thanks for the advice, but for the new guy..what is the "AFM"?!!

Geo - I live on Lake Conroe...email me procamp@consolidated.net


Anyway, enough ribbing and what not, I appreciate all the help I can get. The Haynes book will only go so far!

If anyone has any other suggestions let me know.

Thanks,

Bill
Check for spark and fuel. DME relay?
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According to your the VIN you posted your car is a 1983 984 made in Necktarsulm. You claim it is an '81 944 so it would read WPOAAO94_BN450012, there is no such thing? What does your VIN really say?

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TCMDocs944 - yes, it did start then. I drove it to the storage place...

update - Today I did the following:

put new battery in-
4 new Bosch Platinum Spark Plugs
cleaned dist. cap and rotor (to the best of my ability)
cleaned off ignition coil
removed fuel-rail end cap & verified fuel gushes out on turning key
checked for voltage on all 4 fuel injector plugs
checked for tightness of plug wires and dist wires
even pulled fuel rail off to look at injectors (seemed OK ?!?)

tried to check ignition coil w/ ohmmeter but ran out of daylight

Still won't start...

Any ideas??



p.s. mattdavis - Last name doesn't start w/ a J - sorry
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According to your the VIN you posted your car is a 1983 984 made in Necktarsulm. You claim it is an '81 944 so it would read WPOAAO94_BN450012, there is no such thing? What does your VIN really say?

WaA420,

I stand corrected. You and bader4 are correct. After re-checking the numbers, it seems that I wrote it down wrong. Here's what they "really say":

VIN on windshield - WP0AA0948DN450012
VIN on wall by battery - WP0ZZZ94ZDN450012


Now...can you help me figure out how to get her running again??!

Thanks,

Bill
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Did you check to see If you were getting spark?
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Wow,

You are being quite thorough.

1. You have spark at the plugs (did you pull one or two while cranking and look for the fireworks?)

2. You definately have fuel at the rail.


If you are still questioning spark pull the coil wire where it connects to the dist. and see if it arc to metal while cranking.

Ok, so what next...


The paranoia in me would check throught the site window at the cam gear housing to make sure the timing belt was intact and moving when cranking. (This IS a symptom of a gone timing belt or stripped teeth) Look in there and mark it with whiteout or something....give her a few cranks and see if the white mark is still there...if not, the belt is moving and you can go on to the next idea.


How about a check of you fuses just in case?

How about maybe there is something you undid when you put her to sleep that you forgot to reconnect?

How about gas treatment...maybe it when stale.

How about checking voltage drop at the battery?



Anyone else?
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