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well it finally died

Hello again,

As you may recall my car has been having a fair bit of trouble. It dies while idling, or under acceleration, about one to five times a day now. When I say die, I mean that I loose power from the engine, but electricity, stereo, etc stay on. Normally I pop it out of gear and wait for the ! light to come on signaling that its dead, and then drop the clutch and it often fires back up. Occaisonally I have to wait by the side of the road for 5-10 mins before I crank it over and it starts up again. This is ALWAYS accompanied by something in the relay/fuse box clicking. Sometimes its exactly one click when it dies, and exactly when click when it comes back, but more often it clicks 10-30 times a second for a bit.

I have replaced DME relay, fuel filter, TPS, and ignition coil most recently. A german (but not porsche) shop has looked at it and were unable to find anything.

Last night I think whatever it is finally died which I think is going to turn out to be a good thing because now I can find out what is wrong. It will still crank just fine, but it never starts up.

I am a newbie when it comes to working on cars, but I am thinking it may be the fuel pump as when I give it power but dont crank it I cannot hear anything, and I think I should be able to hear the fuel pump running, correct?

Whats the next step? take the fuel pump out and test it? leave it in and test it? Please help.

I will be gone on work and vacation for a month starting tomorrow so this will have to wait, but I hope to read your replies while I am gone. Also, I did check the fuel pump fuse and that looked fine.

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Check the sensors. Could be a broken casing and wire and/or improper clearance to the flywheel.
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Do not remove the fuel pump. Hook a dmm to the terminals at the pump and have a buddy crank her and assure you are getting voltage to the pump. (make sure is a good buddy gearshift in neutral and parking brake on)

Pick up a Bosch style noid light at discount auto parts and check for pulse getting to the injectors.

can be the ignition switch also giving all the random shutdowns and now dead and the clicking of the fuel pump relay. I am sure you cleaned the ground connections to the firewall.

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If you hook up wires directly to the pump, be sure that you hook the wire up AT the pump and connect it TO the battery (or wherever you're planning on getting power from)... You don't want sparks flying that close to your gas tank.

You can also run a jumper past one of the fuses and see if it gets any juice. Also, take out and look closely at your fuses again... they can be broken and it's hard to tell. I had a blown fuse and didn't have access to an OEM, so I took an inline fuse, added some spades, and made it home.

Would fuel pressure regulator or anything goofy like that cause his problem?

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