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Recommend me Paint.

Preface - The paintjob on my car is bad. Oh ya, and the car was in an accident.

Well this weekend, im going to tear into the old 944 and fix her up from the accident about a month ago. I've got a friend whos going to let me borrow their welder, though i need to check what condition the C pillar is in before anything. Might have to get a shop to deal with that, if its in bad shape.

After i get it fixed, rather than running around with 2 mismatched colors, im going to paint the whole car my self. over the summer. I've gotten a few hints and tips from another board i visit, and i'm going to go black rather than the Dark Charcole Grey that my car is.

Heres the question:
Anyone know what a good type of paint is, and where I can get it online, as well as, what a good Spray gun is? I jsut want to make sure im not using Crap stuff. That is all.

Thanks for any help.
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Old 03-17-2005, 04:16 PM
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What kind of budget are you talking about and is this going to be a one time deal sort of thing?
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eh, well im generally thinking its going to be ~150 for the gun, 300-400 for the paint and ~100-150 for random things ill need.(tape, tarps ect...) Primer... im not sure how much that costs at all. Generally if it can be kept under 1k, im happy. Under 700 and Im on 'All smiles' mode.

And yes, I dont plan on painting other cars other than this one.
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Do you already have a compressor, if so what kind? give me the specs on it. You will need something pretty serious for painting.
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I have not a clue what the specs on my compressor are. Pulled it out of my great grandfathers garage when he died. Ill take a look when i get home tomorrow. I can always get ahold of something else. Either rent one, or find someone who has a bigger one. What do i need to look for as far as a compressor goes?
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I would say nothing under say 15-20 gallons, Sears has the best compressors, reasonably priced, Home Depot has some decent Husky ones. Just stay away from Harbor Freight! You need soemthing quite large so the compressor doesn't have to keep recycling. Just buy a decent HVLP gun for about $100 - $120 there are lots of options in that department. Need a tip smaller than 1.5mm
good luck!
I'll be taking this on soon myself.
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mmm... guess im renting a compressor
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I've been told that PPG Omni is a good type of paint to use, comments? i cant find anything online
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Check this site out:

http://www.autobody101.com/

I found it when I was thinking of painting my car, but those plans are so far in the future I haven't even read through it yet.
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It's a more ambitious task than you are anticipating.

It's doable, but you will need to invest some money first in a compressor (min. $350), and especially a supplied fresh air system (around $400). With ISO-laden 2k paint, activated charcoal masks are insufficient.

Paint guns-good names are Iwata, Sharpe, Sata, Devilbiss, Binks. You should also get a dedicated primer gun.

Find a couple of online painting forums and just read posts for a month.

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Having just done a lot of paint my self with very little if not no experience what so ever (and a fair bit of help from Blackfoot) I have to agree and say read up as much as you can first. I didn't use 2k for safety reasons. Definitely buy your own compressor renting will be a pain because it ties you down to when you can work and by the time you've done some test panels (ie messed a few up) it will have cost the same to rent as buy. It is doable though ;-)
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blackfoot, what kind of paint do you recommend?
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I'm preferential to PPG. For basecoat/clearcoat, I like their DBC line for the color coat, and their 2021 clear. Or OMNI 161 clear is an excellent lower-cost choice. For single-stage, go with their CONCEPT line. But base/clear is easier, a better choice for a first time painter.

Find your local auto paint store guy ("jobber"), and get his/her input. Never stop asking questions. They will also have many handy tools that you'll really appreciate.

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I'm doing the same. Have been doing homework for about the last 9 months. Here are a couple good places to learn from. The first, Len from AutoBodyStore, offers everything you will need at far prices.

I'm also going to go with PPG DBC basecoat and the 2021 clear. It's not cheap but it's quality.

http://www.autobodystore.com/cgi-bin/bbs2/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;

http://www.leopardsystems.com/paintucationforum/

http://hotrodders.com/forum/index.php?
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I'm doing the same. Have been doing homework for about the last 9 months. Here are a couple good places to learn from. The first, Len from AutoBodyStore, offers everything you will need at far prices.

I'm also going to go with PPG DBC basecoat and the 2021 clear. It's not cheap but it's quality.

http://www.autobodystore.com/cgi-bin/bbs2/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;

http://www.leopardsystems.com/paintucationforum/

http://hotrodders.com/forum/index.php?
Mike let me know what you need........

My brother in-law has a body shop and may be able to get you those items you need at a better price......

I am pretty sure we used the same 2 stage on three of my cars (brother in-law is partial to PPG)...........except this last time we used a quick drying clear when we did the engine bay. The base and clear were on in 1-2 hours. The paint could be touched and handled. Great stuff.

P.S Speaking of paint...............and my car comes back from the paint booth NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!! its DONE!!!! HOOOOOOOOOORAYYYYYYY ...... but first I have to go skiing one more time........Winter is almost over.

Here is a sneek peak on my project. We sprayed the engine bay in my garage before we shipped the rolling chassis to his shop.........

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The car looks great...That's what I call red!

I appreciate the offer Alex and will definitely take you up on it. I'll send you a "wish list" later of what I think I need.

Thanks again and Happy Skiing!
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THe darker the color, the more the imperfections will show.
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