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The Death of Our 944

Somehow in the back of my mind I knew that an 87 944 was too nice of a car for a teenager. I joined this website over two years ago and read the various postings trying to decide if the car was right for my son..........several opinions for and against the idea but I finally decided that a 4-cyl car would an economical (fuel wise) car to enjoy and drive. Now my opinion is firmly against a teenager (at least the ones that I know) driving a 944. Before I get flamed for my opinion, I know that there are a bunch of teenage drivers that are cautious and careful drivers, but they’re not living in my house!
This morning my son was going to take his SATs and he let the car drift onto the median. Before he knew what happened he lost control of the car because he over corrected and he ends up in the ditch. By the grace of God (and great German engineering), he walked away from the accident. At a distance the car looks fine with the exception of the front left fender, but I think the uni-body is warped because the driver door will not shut properly.
So the game plan for now is to part the car out. I'll post pictures of the car on this site just as a reminder that most parents need to think twice before they let their teenagers have a 944. I'm going to post the car for sale on the WTB/For Sale site later.
I also wanted to thank everyone on this forum for all of their guidance and help, especially SoCal and AFJuvat. When we bought the car, the DME was bad and everyone in this forum helped us trouble shoot the problem and before we knew it, we were cruising the streets! The most important thing that happened today is that my son got a "free" education from the aspect that he didn't get hurt (Thank You God!) and nobody else was involved. The other part of the brighter side is that we both got to spend time together working on the car and above all, we got to drive a great car!
So I think his next vehicle (to be purchased w/his money, not mine) will be an Isuzu diesel pick-up; its slow as hell and if he puts a dent in it, who cares!!!
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Teenagers need a new Honda Civic 4-door with auto trans, ac and a decent stock stereo/cd. Oh and they need to pay for it themselves too.

We have had several customers letting their kids drive and break the Porsche.

Putting a dent in the truck is not agood idea,usually because it will be against another car or person. And if it doesn't matter..because he didn't pay for it...well can't actually see any sense of value being formed there for the future. My daughter bought her own car, crashed it and bought another one and realizes what it takes to have and keep a car. And it's her money.
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If they are an enthusiastic teen driver (or car guy/girl) then a 924, but preferable a 944 Porsche, with working ac and a cd will work. The problem there is it's two seater, most teens have more than one friend.
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Ouch.

Glad to hear he walked away from the wreck. Sorry to hear that the car is mangled beyond repair.

Any reason as to why this happened? Momentary loss of situational awareness, obstruction in the road, bad luck?

Once he matures a little bit, I'm sure he will be kicking himself in the as$.

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Ouch.

Glad to hear he walked away from the wreck. Sorry to hear that the car is mangled beyond repair.

Any reason as to why this happened? Momentary loss of situational awareness, obstruction in the road, bad luck?

Once he matures a little bit, I'm sure he will be kicking himself in the as$.

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He was going to a high school about 30 miles from our house to take the ACTs this morning. He was looking for the school on the left side of the highway and when he discovered that it was actually on the right side, he had already drifted too far into the median. The inexperience kicked in and the rest is history.
He called me during his break and I could tell that he's already kicking himself. He asked if he could go see the car after he finished (I guess to huge it or something). I know the feeling because I trashed a nice 67 Mustang (that I paid for myself) when I was his age.

Britwrench, I understand your comments about the situation, but you have to understand that he paid for half of the car and 100% of all the maintenance. Nothing is free in my household. I also don't take the idea of him damaging someone's property too tightly......If he dinks up, then he pays for it, not me. The next vehicle he buys will be paid for out of his pocket. Until then, he walks or catches a ride.
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Just my opinions on the whole "Teens driving Porsches" thing. My dad made me drive an 85 Land Cruiser for a year before I got my 914. The deal was I had to drive it and not get any tickets or accidents. I didn't mind so much cause those old land cruisers were cool and they didnt come in automatic in that generation. How cool is a stick shift land cruiser? I thought it was very. Once I had proven I was a responcible driver, then I could get a Porsche. I still am a teenager, but I have never been in an accident, and haven't had a ticket in 2 years (i learned one week after getting the 914 that it had a broken speedo)

Just my .02 cents if you decide on getting another porsche
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Hi,

My 16yo son also drove a 944, which he purchased and insured. We chose the car because of its low h/p, great construction, good gas milage, and low price. He drove for over 2yrs, almost 22,000 miles. A week before leaving for college (without the car, I was going to purchase it from him to be my toy), someone pulled a left turn in front of him while he was travelling 55mph, and they hit head-on. He was subsequently struck by another vehicle while sliding on the passenger side, sending the passenger door halfway across the passenger seat. Needless to say the car was totaled, the only thing we could salvage was his Momo steering wheel.
We chose the Porsche because it was constructed with safety in mind, and it held true to its design and construction. My son limped away with only a broken kneecap and a saddened heart that his love was no more.
I would let him buy another one in the drop of a hat (just not a turbo).

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Sometimes hard lessons are the most effective. I may think twice about putting him in a pickup, with the higher cg a similar accident could have a much worse outcome. I suggest a third generation jetta tdi, 45 mpg is great and they are very safe cars. Best of luck, glad your son is ok.
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I was 17 and learned to drive with a '89 Ford Probe, 5-speed. Had that car a month, my father bought me a '87 924S...automatic. Slow as hell that car! Kept me out of trouble and taught me the finer points of driving (such as stay away from drag racing, but enjoy bombing the backroads!). A year into owning that car i wanted a manual tranny, 944 preferably. Two years later, im 19 and buy just what i wanted, a manual tranny 944. I was looking into a turbol...but that was asking for trouble! I hope 3-4 years from now to buy the 944 Turbo. I figure by then i will have pretty good experience with controlling a 944 from 4-6 years of driving with 3-4 years of driving a manual. I should be nicely suited to that car when it comes time!
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my youngest boy is eligible for his learners permit and he will only see the 951 from the passenger seat.
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Sorry to hear it. I remember the original thread.

Don't be too hard on your boy. I'm generally not a big fan of youngsters in sports cars, but I remember thinking you were doing this right. And or course, in this case it wouldn't have mattered if he were driving an Isuzu Diesel. Actually, it's possible it would have been worse. Just something to think about.
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another 2 teens killed here this w/e (in separate wrecks):

http://www.newsday.com/mynews/ny-lifata104212419apr10,0,3810035.story

about 7000 teens are killed in cars every year in America, 4000 of them were drivers (if it was in Iraq we wudda surrendered)

a few weeks ago USA Today did an excellent story on a study of teen deaths and said that the brain is still developing until age 25.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2005-03-02-teens-cars-main-usat_x.htm

death is still better than the many permanently brain damaged and or paraperlegic kids that will spend the rest of there lives in a nursing home.

I donít know why I was never killed, or worse...killed someone else.

thank goodness it was only the car that did not survive.
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I'm 19 now and been driving my Porsche for 3 years now. I got it when I was 16 from my parents. They were the original owners and the car was never driven, so I wanted to learn to drive stick. I learned to drive stick on that car and my parents let me take it out occassionaly or when my 68 Mustang was down for repairs. My first car was that 68 Mustang, and it was pushing double the HP that the Porsche was. No accidents and no tickets 3 years later. I don't think you should be to hard on him with this one, a lot of kids have accidents when they are new drivers. It's that whole multi-tasking thing that kills ya. My dad travels every week and the greatest memories of cars I have are of me and him in the garage troubleshooting, tuning and detailing the cars. He's safe, that's what is important. Give yourself some time to cool off and then go fully access the car and what it will need, if it's salvagable and so on. If you do decide to part her out though please let me know!
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yeah, i know what your talking about. I'm a teenager who went from an '86 Audi wagon to a '85.5 944. that was a huge move. I love this car. I just hope other kids with porsches are learning you don't have to go way over the speed lI'mit to have a fun driving experience
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Been a long road Mike. Best wishes for the future. Try not to forget what has been learned -- more that just how to repair a 944.
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Been a long road Mike. Best wishes for the future. Try not to forget what has been learned -- more that just how to repair a 944.
I've learned that the younger brother is screwed as far as me letting him buy a getting a nice car!

I think we've graduated with a doctorial from the school of hard knocks (at least self-inflicted)!!!
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Sorry to hear about the car, Mike, but definately glad your son is unharmed.

Here is to crossing my fingers that I don't enter the teenage rite of passage of vehicle crashes...

Try not to be super hard on him, I'm sure he's killing himself over it. A kid's first car is a love he'll never forget. (Or at least mine is.)

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Are you mocking me, Brit? :-P
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The problem there is it's two seater, most teens have more than one friend.
which is actually a plus, as more accidents are caused by teenage drivers that are distracted by their easily excited friends
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another plus...it's a great excuse when you don't want to haul everyone around
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