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H4 upgrade!

I'm going to do an H4 upgrade to my 944. On the 911, the upgrade will supposedly melt the switch so you have to put in a relay. Is that the case with 944s?
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Old 12-29-2005, 09:01 AM
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Do a search for posts by "Iceshark". He was our resident 944 headlight expert and a nice guy to boot. He passed away recently, but much of his enormous knowledge can be found here.
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You can do an H4 upgrade without adding relays as long as you use 55/60W bulbs. Any higher and relays are a good idea.
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I second what Aribop said. I have and upgraded h4 kit with halo and it works just fine
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Be sure to buy good reflectors and not the cheap-o stuff on eBay. Good bulbs too.
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Thank you guys. The official h4's I put in my 911 are great. I want that level of illumination for the 944.
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I've been running mine since 1985. Stock wattage.
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Upgrading the wiring is a good idea regardless. Even in the stock headlight configuration, I've seen the switches melt, and you lose a lot of power in the wiring. In the case of my 951 (entirely stock) I see 11.1V when the engine is running at the headlights, 9.6V when it's not. In the spring I will be upgrading the wiring.....
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Do a search for posts by "Iceshark". He was our resident 944 headlight expert and a nice guy to boot. He passed away recently, but much of his enormous knowledge can be found here.
Speaking of Dan, I may have found a way to resume production of the Iceshark kits with very little effort from his family, and in a way they can benefit.

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Bravo Wolf! I'll keep my eyes open for this one.
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I took the cheapie route and replaced my headlights with the SilverStar Sealed beams...they were quite an improvement..i found the ones i replaced had lost much of their silver..I'd never seen that with a headlight before
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any one know of a HID conversion for a 944?
where can i get flushmounts?
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Wolfe,

if you get the light thing back up and running, I would like to buy some new lights and also a pair of relays (not the whole harness; these would be going in my '55 Stude. Unless you are willing to do me a harness to my spec.)

just PM me or drop me an email.

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Do a search for posts by "Iceshark". He was our resident 944 headlight expert and a nice guy to boot. He passed away recently, but much of his enormous knowledge can be found here.
I don't know if it would be possible but could his posts be put in some form of library? I would be willing to run through them and edit them for content. IE take all the info and advise that he so freely gave us and put it all in one place.

Can this be done? Like I said I would gladly help with this project

I had corresponded with him on the "other list" about headlights for one of our race cars that is primarily used for 12 hour endurs where lighting is VERY important as about half of it is run in the dark. The car was not a Porsche but it uses the same bulbs and suffers the same problems as the 944 so the information was very relevant. This past year the car ran with the new system in place. I was very saddened to here of Dans passing. I never got a chance to thank him
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any one know of a HID conversion for a 944?
where can i get flushmounts?
There is NOT SUCH THING as a legal HID conversion for street use if the car did not have HID as an option.

The ONLY legal way to retrofit HID lights to a car is if the same exact model of car had a FACTORY HID option and you replace the lights with the FACTORY setup. Otherwise, HIDs are ILLEGAL for street use.

There are some shops that sell "custom" HID setups that use stock reflectors with altered mountings for HID bulbs. Stay away from those. Far away. HID bulbs have a different "fillament" (in the case of HID bulbs, it's an arc, but it is functionally identical to a filament for optics purposes) orientation than the incandescent bulbs the housings were originally built for. Filament placement and orientation are absolutely critical for proper beam creation by the reflector. Altering the position or orientation of the filament ("custom" HID kits alter both position AND orientation, a gigantic no-no in the world of optics) creates a wholly unacceptable beam pattern that is a hazard for oncoming drivers and for you as well since it creates severely increased glare. Increased glare decreases the eye's ability to make out shapes and movement yet is more irritating to the eye and therefore perceived as "brighter" despite the fact that you actually can see LESS.

Get a set of ECE-Spec Hella or Ciebe H4 kits. Those use proper reflector design and a standard H4 bulb. They are much less expensive than, and vastly superior to, those "custom" HID kits.

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I am running European halogens on my 84 944 and 83 928, both of which have the great Euro cutoff, lower on the driver side so as to not blind oncoming traffic, and high on the right so as to illuminate traffic signs and the edge of the road on low beam. On high beam if the residential electrical power ever went out, I think I could cook a hot dog in front of the car.

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sweet! i want some, where do i sign!
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yes aftermarket HID's are illegal to put on a car that do not have that option. but if u still want to get an HID kit

http://www.umnitza.com/

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yes aftermarket HID's are illegal to put on a car that do not have that option. but if u still want to get an HID kit

http://www.umnitza.com/

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Your friend needs to tell them to fire their web designer. That site looks about as professional as a guy selling "genuine Rollex [sic]" watches from his trenchcoat pocket.

And way to go recommending something you know is illegal. Those damn cobbled setups have piss-poor beam patterns and awful glare. They are legitimate hazards to anyone on the road.
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Do you have any tech on this? Any studies comparisons of various aftermarket set ups? I have been having this argument with an employee at the office and would like to put this to bed once and for all.
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