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ae1969 04-04-2006 07:16 PM

PROJECT UPDATE - Part I
 
PROJECT UPDATE Part I:

The engine is finally complete. A few parts were on back order (Thanks AFjuvat for sourcing them).......... but I finally managed to get the last few pieces to my project completed.

- The engine itself is a 2.5 L 944 Turbo engine with an IRL racing head flowing over 240 CFM.
- The engine is mated to a KEP pressure plate, CUP disc, Fidanza flywheel.
- The turbo is a Vitesse stage 2 turbo
- Lindsey Intake replaces the stock
- Also added a 36-1 trigger wheel mated to a EDIS sensor. That will feed my megasquirt (FOr those that are wondering what that funny little thing near the crank pulleys are.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1144206906.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1144206914.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1144206922.jpg

ae1969 04-04-2006 07:19 PM

OH forgot to mention.......

Its going into my NA. :D

AFJuvat 04-04-2006 07:19 PM

WOW....

I am in awe.... want a job....:D

AFJ

Eldorado 04-04-2006 08:11 PM

hot damn..
what's the price tag on something like that?

any worries about your transaxle?

ilikemy944 04-04-2006 09:55 PM

Daayyyuummm!!!

cchyper 04-04-2006 09:57 PM

mmm baby... i wanna butter your bread.

BOOOOIIINNGG!

Zero10 04-05-2006 05:12 AM

I think that butter your bread comment was taking it too far.
I just want to have sex with your wife.

Wait... that came out wrong.


Seriously though, nice engine!!!
It's not often you get to see one that looks that nice. How far have you gotten with your megasquirt?

CJFusco 04-05-2006 06:26 AM

wow awesome job!

What other fabrication are you doing in order to transplant the 951 motor?

ae1969 04-05-2006 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eldorado
hot damn..
what's the price tag on something like that?

any worries about your transaxle?

Price tag... I dont ask silly questions like that. (BUT not as much as you would think).

The transaxle is a turbo LSD that was rebuilt with hardened gears.......so should have no problems.

ae1969 04-05-2006 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zero10
I think that butter your bread comment was taking it too far.
I just want to have sex with your wife.

Wait... that came out wrong.


Seriously though, nice engine!!!
It's not often you get to see one that looks that nice. How far have you gotten with your megasquirt?

The wiring harness and everything needed is 99% complete.

:)

I made a plug and play harness that will plug into the engine bay plug :D and feed the megasquirt. Nothing like a complete standalone for under 1K. The only issue was triggering ignition. THe plug and play with the stock motronic sensors is IMO a year away........but I wanted to run it now. So I created a bracket that would hold the trigger for EDIS.........and as you can see in the one diagram....... it fits nicely.

THe challenge will be the timing maps but I have a number of maps that should do the trick.

ae1969 04-05-2006 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CJFusco
wow awesome job!

What other fabrication are you doing in order to transplant the 951 motor?

If you have an 86 NA and 86 Turbo...........

Just swap the parts over.

:D

The ONLY significant difference. No relay for the turbo timer in the NA.

Razorback1980 04-05-2006 07:03 AM

Nice work Alex. You can bet that's the best that engine has ever looked.

Zero10 04-05-2006 07:35 AM

That is awesome. I just looked again, I see new oil lines, new everything. Except for the water lines on the turbo... tsk tsk tsk. ;)

Have you got the megasquirt powered up and everything? Any base maps for it?
I would be really interested to see a 944 run with it, since you would probably be the first or second person to do it.

ae1969 04-05-2006 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zero10
That is awesome. I just looked again, I see new oil lines, new everything. Except for the water lines on the turbo... tsk tsk tsk. ;)

Have you got the megasquirt powered up and everything? Any base maps for it?
I would be really interested to see a 944 run with it, since you would probably be the first or second person to do it.

hehehe

YOu noticed the water lines..... but in reality the oil lines would of remained as well but the rubber on the one line just disintegrated in my hand. Trust me I didnt want to spend 200 clams on one line. :D

I should have the car running by the end of the month. :D

I have base maps.......but from k26/6 and /8 and some link maps from other aftermarket turbos and so forth... I have a general idea of where it should be. First set of maps will be conservative.........

Zero10 04-05-2006 08:46 AM

As long as you have a WBO2, and don't go over 8-10psi until you get the tune right, you will have fun.
I eagerly await your next posts. I want to see a 951 run with megasquirt!

ae1969 04-05-2006 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zero10
As long as you have a WBO2, and don't go over 8-10psi until you get the tune right, you will have fun.
I eagerly await your next posts. I want to see a 951 run with megasquirt!

Yup wideband.....

Tial wastegate with 0.8 bar spring so that will have to do. :D

I am excited as well. It will fire up. No question

.......... The real question will be If I am able to squeeze everything out of it.........

:D

- other parts that need to go on.........
- UEGO wideband
- SFR cat back
- fabspeed testpipe
- lindsey fuel rail/AFR
- 55 lb injectors
- AVC-R
- Konis all around

Other things to come:
- larger intercooler (now that I have the right welder)

Zero10 04-05-2006 10:26 AM

That should be a beast. How much boost will the turbo you have hold? 18psi?
That would be pretty wild if properly tuned.

ae1969 04-05-2006 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zero10
That should be a beast. How much boost will the turbo you have hold? 18psi?
That would be pretty wild if properly tuned.

In my previous experiments the Stage 2 really starts to come alive at 18 psi......

at 21+ psi it is SCARY........ even with perfect AFRs the EGT's went through the roof in a split second. I really should of been running race gas....... or at least something better than PetroCanadas 91 winter gas. :D

At 21 psi it had no trouble pulling all the way to redline......that little turbo has more to give.

Zero10 04-05-2006 12:24 PM

Haha petrocanada 91 winter gas....
I think you might need something a littler better to make max power.

21psi, that should be attainable with pump gas, but you might need 94 octane, or to keep it on the rich side to keep the temperatures down.

I'm shocked, I didn't think that turbo would hold 21psi to redline.... I want to ride in your car when it's done. Bring it down for secret street one week!!!

NKN84944 04-05-2006 02:43 PM

Oh man that is flippin sweet. Do you have a pic of the car that it is going in (it must be in good condition if you are doing the conversion ;) )

PhillysMostWntd 04-05-2006 03:42 PM

wait, is this really goin in an n/a??

im so confused.

great looking engine on the other hand.

zehnd 04-05-2006 06:58 PM

Next trip to Edmonton I would like a ride in that badass. :D

marksportcts 04-06-2006 01:02 AM

Alex, good to hear that your car is coming back together. Maybe I'll come and visit you this summer.

JustinL 04-06-2006 10:02 PM

Yep, Alex's reincarnation car will be quite impressive once put together. We'll have some Caymans to terrorize this summer :D. I'm sure Alex will be checking and rechecking those fuel rail bolts like a bad case of OCD.

The megasquirt really is a cool setup, seems fairly straightforward as far as tuning it and when the router board gets developped it will be able to handle our stock speed and reference sensors. Until then though we are stuck using the 36-1 trigger wheel. The GPIO board is very close to completion and will add some more functionality to an already neat system.

If everyone can get their 944s running at the same time, we should have a western canadian get together... might I suggest Edmonton :)

Justin

Slam 04-06-2006 10:29 PM

So the sky isn't the limit after all...

Very impressive!

Eldorado 04-06-2006 11:37 PM

is it just me or have there been a wave of people overhauling their cars lately?
i realize i've only been around a year but it just seems that way... super chargers.. and makeovers like this one...

hopefully these cars are still around another 20+ years from now! with the work some, like this example, are putting into it, i dont doubt they will..


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