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Jon Vancil 07-11-2008 08:36 PM

Deep technical question
 
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...l/ignition.jpgWill oem Porsche N 017 586 2, and N 017 589 4 fit in connector oem 171 971 971?

Ok I tried to post this earlier but I got kicked off. The meathead that owned my 944 before me mangled the wiring. The parts above are the metal connectors and the plastic housing. Basically this dude pulled on the wires behind the ignition switch causing them to deinsulate and arc, melting half a dzen wires in the process. I have removed the wiring harness and replaced all the bad wires and tested everything with a multitester. Everything checks out ok. The fuseblock was fried as well. The parts above are to replace a plug that went to the back of the fuseblock that were removed with pliers. The moron also wired a radio shack switch into the console to control the fans. Here is a picture of the fuse block carnage:

TibetanT 07-11-2008 10:32 PM

Jon:

I think I know about this idiot too!! No $hit.

I purchased a 1987 944 about three years ago that would not start, my first BIG mistake, and the moron did the exact same thing you have just mentioned here.
In fact, the gray and black wire was spliced into some type of switch just under the dash board. Of course, these people never leave you a note as to what they did or planned to do. This person even went so far as to cut wires on the E Block so when I finally got the car started (two years ago) it wouldn't turn off when you removed the key from the ignition. Can you believe that? :confused:

I really understand and feel your pain here. I just don't understand why someone would take a perfectly wired German car and mess with it like that. :mad:

Did you get your situation fixed?

Jon Vancil 07-11-2008 10:51 PM

Oh it gets better!http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s.../fuseblock.jpg Thats the fried fuse block. What I dint understand is while there has been a great deal of work involved on this, so much could have been avoided by doing something right the first time. Well, I'm glad it worked out though I picked up the car for $500. All I need now is figure if N 017 5862 and N 017 589 4 are the correct pins for 171 971 971 A and I'm in business!

TibetanT 07-11-2008 11:01 PM

Good luck with that. I'm sorry I can't be of more help but my car has a different fuse box all together. Hopefully, another Pelican will chime in that knows the year and layout of your car soon.

Brando 07-11-2008 11:23 PM

replacement fuseblocks can be had pretty easily from people parting out early cars...

Depending on how bad the damage is (just the fuseblock and plug or harnesses too?) you may or may not need a replacement wiring harness...

Diagnosing and repairing issues like that are the worst. My mom just had a mis-wired ignition switch (DAPO) take out her main wiring harness on her 82 SC. Estimated $6k from the shop they took it to. Fun stuff!

Jon Vancil 07-12-2008 07:37 AM

I dont need a new harness, I have replaced the bad wires and have a new fuseblock on order. My question is if the parts # N 017 586 2 (pin) and #N 017 589 4 (pin) are correct for #171 971 971 A (housing)?

Jrad0425 07-12-2008 08:30 AM

Jon, where under the dash are the connectors your talking about, I have an 84 and its basically identical to your 85.1 car, If you can let me know where to look ill tell you what it connects to

Jon Vancil 07-12-2008 09:26 AM

Thanks everyone for the interest. I think I may havent made myself clear. I am rebuilding my car's wiring harness. The picture is of the plug I am talking about. What I need to know is what are the part numbers on the pins within that housing? If I know that, then I can order them, and the plug and complete my wiring harness.http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...DSC03013-1.jpg

Aufenbahn 07-12-2008 11:24 AM

Probably easiest to buy the whole unit in question from someone who is parting out a car, then one at a time remove the wires and replace them with your wires. One at a time so you don't get mixed up.

Brando 07-12-2008 01:56 PM

I don't know if the plugs/pins have part numbers themselves. When having to replace parts like that we usually went to a local electrical warehouse. Easier than fighting with parts counter people or getting the wrong part on order.

BUT
I found part numbers in PET that might be useful:
N 017 589 4 - Round Connector, 1.6 X 1
N 017 586 2 - Round Connector, 2.1 X 1

N 017 593 4 - Cylindrical Connector, 1.6 x 1
N 017 592 2 - Cylindrical Connector, 1.6 x 2.5
N 017 599 4 - Cylindrical Connector With Clips, 3.5 X 6

hpservertech 07-12-2008 02:08 PM

I would go to a local electonicics shop and get some pins. No way you are going to get these from a dealer or from Germany.

Or just see if you can get one with some wires from someone parting out a early car.


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