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What does "NA" mean, ...for example, 83 944 NA. I thought it meant normally aspirated as opposed to turbo. The reason I wonder is that the turbo option was not available when I bought my 944 in 1983 (.. at least that I knew of..)
My apologies if the question makes no sense, .. I am just beginning to get serous about researching the 944 and making my own repairs. Bob
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=) Plus you could always Turbo your NA... [Hides]
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That makes sense Phoenix-iii. More efficient. I will add that to my personal info.
No thanks on going Turbo. I am still having fun with the simpler version.
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hahahahaa.....I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at Phoenix.
it will make sense the more your on here and when someone new comes and asks us how to turbo their NA. Welcome to the board by the way, we love to see pictures!
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you can turbo your NA? Please Hpservertech, tell us more.
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NA, aka "Not Applicable"...
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Ah, the old "NA" conundrum rears its ugly head again. A favorite discussion topic among after-track drunkards which usually ends with agreement that "NA" stands for naturally aspirated, not normally aspirated. "Naturally" because the air forced into the cylinders is sourced while under natural atmospheric pressure, while "normal" pressure would vary depending on the altitude in which the car is located (among other weather factors).
It's Friday, I couldn't resist.
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Why put the beautiful NA down? all I hear about the 944 turbo is "turbo lag". I get very good acceleration. It is chipped, Exhaust converted, Cold Intake (from the well), MDS ignition, etc. turbo, No thanks.
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The N/A's have infinite turbo lag..
.If i needed a daily driver only, an S2 would be my choice. 60hp more over the 8v n/a, huge low end torque and no turbo lag.
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Aha #39! Naturally aspirated! That's good! Of course the laws of phyisics (... read Newton ..) apply. That's what I like about this car, ...it's more than just a car, a work of engineering art. I remember a long time ago the driver's window motor quit on me. I dug into it and ended up hard-wiring around a thermal switching diode (I think..) to keep it going. That was back around '86 or 7, ..it's still there. Every time I opperate the window, I remember it and make a point to not hold the button too long after the window is up or down, just to keep from burning out the motor. Thermal switches coundn't cost much, but that's not the point. I felt in a small way I was making it more mine than it was before.
To make a long story short, digging beneath the skin of the door, I started a lifelong appreciation of fine, logical German engineering, as I lingered long and examined everything on the way in and out. Bob
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If I had the money, I would have a 911 turbo. I drove in one at watkins glen this weekend, going a slow 155MPH. Now, That's nice!!
The NA is simply beautiful. especially the early ones with the classic interior. My next car will probably be a boxter. I will skip the 951, thanks, and yes, I will keep my NA.
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+1 for adding the Boxster thoen! Thats what I did. I still would love to drop a race 3.0 into my 944. But the 245hp flat-6 in the 987 makes a sweet DD.
I do admit that for a race-motor I would rather have N/A over turbo, the turbo has power, but is far less reliable. My dad is finding that out with his TurboS.
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Yeah, there's just too much to go wrong with a turbo. I'd much rather mod a NA.
As for why so many people keep asking if they can turbo a NA, I bet it's because other more normal cars that have a turbo as an option are often relatively simple to convert to turbo (like a mazda 625 or something like that). you'd just need stuff like a cam, intake, turbo, exhaust, and engine computer from a parts car that is otherwise exactly the same car, whereas with the 944, half the car changed to better handle the turbo. The noobs just aren't aware that these cars aren't exactly "normal" cars.
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Thanks Thoen. When we bought this car, it was for my wife's birthday (1983). The salesman had us drive out a 911 that day also, which back then was only about 29K compared to the 944 25K price (BTW, a good Lincoln went for 22K back then). He suggested that a 911 might be more difficult for her to drive due to so much weight being in the rear of the car, making it more risky for her in wet weather.
It's been a good move, even with all the rip offs from dealers over the years. I will submit some examples later on. Bob
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