Up on jack stands

[jackrussell]

Can anyone advise an old man the best procedure to put his 83 944 up on jackstands in order to bleed the clutch hydraulics?

[kdjones2000]

Try bleeding it here first:

Okay, here we go: The great fix it/upgrade thread

You will probably have more luck.

[924RACR]

To answer the orig question (in case it's still a Q or others want to know) - I always put the front of my cars up first on jackstands, at the lowest setting, by jacking on the crossmember. On the racecar, the spoiler's too low to fit the jack under, so I'll first put the car on wood ramps to gain room (944 would be much the same - 924's come with much less front spoiler of course!).

Then, once the front's nominally on the stands, I'll grab the back (under the trans or diff) and put it up as high as I need to go. Follow by a second time up front, as far as I need to go this time.

I've used this safely for years. I much prefer it to side-to-side jacking - that always makes me nervous, because of the high angles, about tipping a jackstand.

[jackrussell]

Originally Posted by kdjones2000

Try bleeding it here first:

Okay, here we go: The great fix it/upgrade thread

You will probably have more luck.

This fitting is in a location just directly beneath the oil dipstick on my 944, so probably wouldn't be quite as messy. However, it seems that this would only bleed the master cylinder and not the slave.

[kdjones2000]

Originally Posted by jackrussell

This fitting is in a location just directly beneath the oil dipstick on my 944, so probably wouldn't be quite as messy. However, it seems that this would only bleed the master cylinder and not the slave.

If you have air in your clutch line, you most likely have an air bubble in the flex area. This will get that bubble out.

You may have to actually bleed the slave unit, if there is air in there, but the big issue is trying to get the air out of the vertical flex portion.

[jackrussell]

Originally Posted by 924RACR

To answer the orig question (in case it's still a Q or others want to know) - I always put the front of my cars up first on jackstands, at the lowest setting, by jacking on the crossmember. On the racecar, the spoiler's too low to fit the jack under, so I'll first put the car on wood ramps to gain room (944 would be much the same - 924's come with much less front spoiler of course!).

Then, once the front's nominally on the stands, I'll grab the back (under the trans or diff) and put it up as high as I need to go. Follow by a second time up front, as far as I need to go this time.

I've used this safely for years. I much prefer it to side-to-side jacking - that always makes me nervous, because of the high angles, about tipping a jackstand.

Yes, still a question! This sounds like the sensible and safe way to do it. However, I was under the impression that lifting the rear under the trans/differential was not recommended. I could use some encouragement to do this, it would make the job very easy. Thanks!

[924RACR]

Been racing for nearly 10 years doing that, wrenching on '24's even longer...

[rcecale]

Originally Posted by jackrussell

Yes, still a question! This sounds like the sensible and safe way to do it. However, I was under the impression that lifting the rear under the trans/differential was not recommended. I could use some encouragement to do this, it would make the job very easy. Thanks!

Jack, I haven't jacked my car from under the trans/diff, myself, I have witnessed my mechaninc (Ryland at Ryland's Specialized Import Service , in Marietta, GA) do this quite often. I'm sure there's a specific place that would be stronger than others, so be carefule if/when you do this. You don't want to crush the case!

Randy

[callmethewander]

Jack I lift my car with a floor jack under the transaxle all the time, But i use a hockey puck to cushion the metal to metal that might otherwise do some damage. The puck sits nicely in the round top of the jack, I would be concerned about a sharp point of metal against the housing of the trans.

[rcecale]

As I mentioned, I haven't done this myself, but probably will be next weekend, after my new jack is delivered. Is there a particular location to place the pad, or is the location pretty obvious?

Randy

[porsche4life]

I always hit the crossmember dead center with th pad. Then I would set my stands on the 4 designated jack point on the sides. Of course I rarely use a jack...

[jackrussell]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

I always hit the crossmember dead center with th pad. Then I would set my stands on the 4 designated jack point on the sides. Of course I rarely use a jack...

Just curious, what do you lift with when you don't use a jack? [I do see the lift in the picture, but I don't have one in my garage/shop]

[porsche4life]

This method works pretty good.

[jackrussell]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

This method works pretty good.

Hadn't thought about this!
Now I can go out in my back yard and try it!

[porsche4life]

Do you have a crane? I will warn you that is he!! on body panels...

[jackrussell]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Do you have a crane? I will warn you that is he!! on body panels...

No, I have no crane. Actually I didn't take this suggestion seriously.
I like the picture though.

[porsche4life]

Ya we bought the parts car from a guy that wanted the tranny but didnt have it out yet. So we pushed it on the trailer and he pulled the tranny. We get home and we are like well it wont roll off now. So we pulled dads crane around and sucked it off. Cant see too well in the picture but it hickeyed the rear quarter right behind the door.

[Skytrooper]

I have always jacked the rear first...under the transaxle, then I would do the front from under the center of the crossmember. I am old and work slow...so I have spent lots of time under my cars in this fashion. They have always been rock solid.

...just my 2 cents

[jackrussell]

Originally Posted by Skytrooper

I have always jacked the rear first...under the transaxle, then I would do the front from under the center of the crossmember. I am old and work slow...so I have spent lots of time under my cars in this fashion. They have always been rock solid.

...just my 2 cents

I am old and slow too, and I truly appreciate all the input.
I am inclined to go with the suggestion to put the front on ramps and then lift the back [with a floor jack].
Has anyone else used this method?