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DE prep

I have a 91 S2 with 59,000 miles on it would like to try some DE's next year. I have the original rubber clutch in the car. Would I be crazy running the original clutch or should I change it out this winter. So far it's working fine with street driving and some occasional hard launching.

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You should be fine, Dont replace it unless its busted. I would check over all your bushings and DOUBLE check your ball joints. Make sure you have NO play in any suspension or bearing parts. Also I would change the oil, FLush the Brake system is a MUST, Make sure you have a good firm brake pedal and at least 50% pad life. May wanna change the Tranny fluid too. DE's arent to hard on the clutch its Auto cross thats tuff on it.

Your gonna have a Blast. I just started DE's this year ran 3 events and one was a double day. Its RETARDED FUN. You learn alot, and your gonna be amazed at what your car can do. These cars are No joke. They can Pull some serious G's in the corners. Get ready to chase Those 911.
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Stock Porsche components are definately up to the task of track driving, as long as everything is in good condition.

When you start down that slippery slope, and "need" a set of R-compound tires for your next track day, then you may need to start looking at upgrades.

CAUTION: I attended a DE a few years ago, and now my car has a roll cage, and big numbers on the door.
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I have done 7 DE days with my car, which has a rubber disk (rather worn out I just found out too). I wouldn't spend the money unless you need to change the clutch anyways, in which case you would get the spring disk no matter what... Like Dantilla said, its a very steep slope. Just get some experience and days under your belt before you decide to start spending money!
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CAUTION: I attended a DE a few years ago, and now my car has a roll cage, and big numbers on the door.
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Beware the R-Comp.
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When you start down that slippery slope, and "need" a set of R-compound tires for your next track day, then you may need to start looking at upgrades.
Ain't that the truth! I have my set of RA-1's now, and couldn't be happier come DE day

You will soon find out that that old worn suspension needs replacing as well, maybe with some upgrades along the way. Ah, the slippery slope....
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Refresh the brake fluid with quality stuff. Consider refreshing coolant, or even pulling/flow testing radiator. Consider performance brake pads.
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+1, watch where you go with this... my wife did her first DE a coupla years ago... despite only getting maybe 1 per year... well... she's now finishing up her first year as a rookie racer, and gets rather pissed when there's no-one for her to chase and pass... said it's as boring as DE... my, how quickly we get jaded!
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I went to Elkhart Lake last weekend and watched the club race and DE event. The DE event looks to be more my speed and budget. So far I've done the following: new belts, rollers, water pump, coolant hoses, oil cooler hoses, timing chain upper pad, yellow Konis, KLA upper strut mount, ball joints, stock front control arm bushing, 968 rear control arm bushing, 968 M030 F & R sway bars, KLA front sway bar brace, new rotors, Hawk HPS pads, ATE blue brake fluid, and SS flexible brake lines. I've been holding out doing the clutch until necessary as I'm not looking forward to all of the work.
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are you thinking of DEing at RoadAmerica? that's a very fast course and very hard on the brakes. i would recommend you upgrade to at least Hawk HP+ pads for the track. keep the HPS's for your daily driving.

remember to brake early at 5. u don't wanna be finding out last second that you don't got brakes. heh. i hope to make it up there with PCA next year. I gotta get my 6pt harnesses installed. They won't let me run again with my Schrothe Rallye4's
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Well, you could always go ITR (SCCA) with that puppy!
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i would say change the original rubber clutch this winter so that you have a happy summer of DE's next year. IT WILL FAIL. the S2 has way more power than the regular 2.5's so just change it now!
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I have a 91 S2 with 59,000 miles on it would like to try some DE's next year. I have the original rubber clutch in the car. Would I be crazy running the original clutch or should I change it out this winter. So far it's working fine with street driving and some occasional hard launching.
de's are very controlled and you will probably see 4 door sedans, m3's, ricers galore so you're not gonna get a lot of time to stretch out and let the hammer down.
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watch out for those ricers. u never know when u'll have a 400hp eg hatch that weighs 1500lbs.
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I got about 6 DE days out of my old rubber-center clutch (73,000 miles). Even when it went bye-bye, it was driveable with a gentle clutch-foot.

And I'd firm up the suspension before going with RA1s. I used RA1s with 20 year old suspension parts, and it was not pretty. Old rubber bushings from West Germany are not compatible with .99Gs.

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