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rporzio 11-29-2009 11:13 AM

Speed and Reference Sensors
 
Can someone explain to me what the Speed and Reference Sensors (84 944) do? Are they the same and any other info you can tell me about will be helpful. Thanks, Ralph

Rasta Monsta 11-29-2009 01:10 PM

Speed and Reference Sensors - Checking, Replacement, and Adjustment

rporzio 11-29-2009 01:32 PM

Speed and Reference Sensors
 
Thanks Rasta, I did see that info on Clark's site, but what I was really looking for is an explanation of what the sensors actually do.

I'll use Clark's directions and tips if I have to replace or test mine.

KrazyKarl 11-29-2009 01:49 PM

One sensor reads a reference stud in the flywheel, and the other reads the teeth on the starter gear I believe. They have magnets on the end that read the metal and send an electrical signal to the DME.

rporzio 11-29-2009 02:02 PM

ok, that's good. What in the world would they have to do with the car suddenly shutting off and then failing to start until hours later when the block has cooled down. These are things that make me go: hmmmm...!

Rasta Monsta 11-29-2009 02:06 PM

Yes, they tell the computer the position of the crank, so it can fire the injectors and spark plugs. If the computer gets no signal from the sensors, it kills the fuel pump (something about burning to death in a 100 PSI gasoline fire).

rporzio 11-30-2009 07:39 AM

Speed and Reference Sensors
 
Are both of the sensors the same, with the exception of the labels? Thanks, Ralph

Techno Duck 11-30-2009 07:57 AM

Yes, sensors are the same part.

John_AZ 11-30-2009 09:33 AM

Ralph,
If you need new reference sensors, there are interchanges for about $70 each. Stay with the sensors that have the silver case on the bottom portion of the sensor. I have seen some aftermarket sensors with a full plastic case.

Techno Duck and a recent TSB I found, said that the turbo starter replacement (now standard) can cause electrical interference with the sensors and cause hard starts.

What do they do? From an internet parts house.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1259605872.jpg

GL
John_AZ

SolReaver 11-30-2009 12:11 PM

making the right connections
 
Don't overlook the connectors that go to the sensors, they get brittle and fail with age. A bad connector can present a a bad sensor as the brain can't tell the difference. Cleaning and securing the little pins might do the trick and so IMHO it is worth the 10 mins it will take just to check it out.

Rasta Monsta 11-30-2009 01:00 PM

I read someplace those connectors were made from a special material called Brittelsheiß.

thekidd 11-30-2009 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_AZ (Post 5039538)
Ralph,
If you need new reference sensors, there are interchanges for about $70 each. Stay with the sensors that have the silver case on the bottom portion of the sensor.


Zygmunt Motors: BimmerParts.com has the sensors for $106.56, or abouts, total for 2 sensors. Look at the part number, F6010- 12760, if you change the 0 at the end to a 1, the 1 part number is for the 944's- $100 more for just one! I bought the sensor for a 1979? 320i? series I think, part# is correct so just use that.


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