944s project need help!!!
 

I purchased an 87-944s 16v not running and it came with an engine but before i condem the original one i pulled the head off and im very confused.i was told the valves were bent,that`s ok, but,i don`t see any signs of damage but i do see something i don`t like,oil between the cylinders!!!! can anyone help me i have alot of questions as this came as a basket case.

like where between the cylinders? any pix? in the block or in the head, or just on the outside of the engine? clean oil or dirty oil?

just pulled head off and i found oil between all cyl,coolant galley ,also there is a tiny hole on the wall just inside the collant galley??not sure what this is or if it is major.seems if you look down around the cylinder walls there is a tiny hole, best way to describe it is were the oil filter housing attches to the block then inside the collant wall is a tiny hole???

can you stick a wire or guitar strin in there, or is it a casting imperfection? sounds like an oil spill. will have to look at another block i guess. someone here will show up shortly with a better answer.

is there an obvious difference in the cleanliness/deposits of each cylinder? and the plugs if they are still in the head?

was the timing belt still ojn the engine? did it turn freely by hand before head removal? thats a real time saving diagnostic step before disassembly.. Look carefully at the top of the pistons for an unsuual semicurcular depression or scratch mark. of ten its onot on all pistons, just the ones that hit before it stopped. when ckleaaning the pistons with scotch brite, liik for minute craccks in the top near the half moon impressions.

sounds like u bought yourself a dud....

take some pictures. there's so many of wordy posts that can be helped by a single picture.

what does the headgasket look like? is there like a gaping hole on one or multiple cylinders?

is there oil seepage marks on the valve shaft?

are the cylinder walls clean? scratches? pits? take pictures!

don't worry, mine was a
dud" when I got it from the bank repo man. But do not expect this to become a totally trouble free car till you do quite a few things to it. Look on Clarks garage for the list of things you should have done before buying it, and work from there. You are going to learn a lot, but you have certainly come to the right place in the world for help!!!

the car is in really nice shape,no tears,nothing missing right down to the orig touchup paint.here`s the thing, i was just informed the valves all need to be replaced 8 exhaust are bent and the intake are all pitted,but it came with another engine the problem is it`s an 8 valve so can i swap the head????

fix that head for the performance. also, you will know what you have and will not have to repeat this procedure in the near future.

can the 8v engine be used w/the 16v cyl head???

u could......if u wanted to spend another $1000 on a 16v head plus custom pistons to clear the valves

i have just uploaded a pic of the hole

look at the pic of the water galley in front of the stud as you look down you will see this hole.

look in my garage for the pics

just link the image in your post. instead of making people click 3 times to see what you're talking about.

the hole does not look oem and it does not look like damage. get a CLEAR picture. does yer camera have macro mode? see if u can take a pic inside the cylinder.

this is not a cell phone camara, 12pix cannon

it's just that the picture has been resized into a picture that's like 600x300.

like i said from that shot, it doesn't look like normal damage, since it's ... so perfectly round. where does the hole punch thru to? is that front or rear of block?

Give the man a chance here he has only ten post on the "Forum " same thing happen to me when I first got on,you got to realize that nobody perfect, with time he will learn. You are one of the most helpful guy on the forum so have a little patience please.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...ool_shades.gif

That's a really nice, clean looking car. Congratulations on buying it!

Like the others said, it's impossible to really see anything on the pics you posted. What you can see does look good. If you have a macro lens, take a picture of the hole with that and post it.

What did the previous owner say about the condition of the car? What led you to think it had bent valves? Was the timing belt/chain intact? What do the valves look like?

As to oil between the cylinders, that could have run down there when you took the head off. Did you pull the dipstick before you tore it apart and notice anything unusual? How about the coolant recovery tank? Just coolant or is it there oil in it as well?

It's a really nice looking car. It oughta be a fun project getting it going.

doesn't look bad to me either.

we'll need a better pic or two.

no...fix the valves if they are bent. you can't swap heads with an 8 valver.

was the cam chain tensioner broken?

were the plastic pads on the cam tensioner still?

did the t-belt snap?

answers to these Q's will tell the tale also.

looks like a nice clean car for a project!

ps...where are you located?

I believe "Pontifex4" - Charlie has a 16v head for sell ,don't know if he still got it,you can try him & see.

Thanks`s for the info!!as far as the head,nothing is broke,chain,tensioner,upper & lower plastic`s are good.yesterday i took the head to my local machine shop and waited for the call.so here it is, all valves need to be replaced. 8 exhaust are bent and the intake are pitted.can anyone direct me to link with good prices??also, as for the small hole it`s normal,
it`s some kind of passage for the oil filter assembly,keeps it cool??? i was lucky and was able to get a porsche mech to come over and give it good look.it`s thumbs up!!! also if anyone needs a complete engine i have one.it was purchased back in 1991 with 30000 miles to do a converison but never done, because it doesn`t fit without lot`s of mods.it turns very nice and ready to install.so if your in need let me know....

sorry!! im in north carolina

The little hole is where they drill for the waterpump studs.
Call EBS racing for the valves. They're actually pretty cheap.

On what? Pelican or the internet?!?!? LOL.

On pelican ,got reprimanded pretty fast for starting a couple of treads on the same subject "was trying to send pics of my car & I admit I goof LOL". Got

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nascar991, what pix of engine repair is that post?

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/x...1/DSC00987.jpg
look in L front ,then down you can see the hole..

yes, i can tell it is a factory hole because it is such a clean round hole.