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Rasta Monsta 09-09-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by vdubr928 (Post 6245371)
You have said that I am poor, that Im not skilled or financially capable enougg to race spec, and now attempting to turn the tables on me when it was you who said you were blueprinting

None of this is accurate, and you are sounding a bit nutty at the moment.

*plonk*

vdubr928 09-09-2011 10:46 AM

No comment

Guest765 09-09-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta (Post 6245383)
None of this is accurate, and you are sounding a bit nutty at the moment.

*plonk*

You're the one who sounds bad here.

944sracer 09-09-2011 09:22 PM

Header Coating
 
We currently do NOT allow for 968 valve springs and the turbo ones are te same as the N/A.

I think you will find that the local Spec944 guys in your area will help you alot with info and parts. Start going to events near you and asking questions and looking at others builds. I steal shamelessly at races. And if someone does the same to me I take it as a compliment hahaha. IMHO 944spec is the best racing put there for the $$$.

Lol sounds like you an Rasta have some history so I'm not going there!

944sracer 09-09-2011 09:29 PM

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Oh and the other poster is correct in saying the '88 has about 10 extra hp. The rebuild cost with a good block will be the same as a non-88. You don't NEED to have a '88 to be competitive despite some schools of thought. I have one because the price and mileage was right. Budget $800-1000 for a good 88 and about 400-600 for a non-88.

vdubr928 09-10-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 944sracer (Post 6246546)
We currently do NOT allow for 968 valve springs and the turbo ones are te same as the N/A.

I think you will find that the local Spec944 guys in your area will help you alot with info and parts. Start going to events near you and asking questions and looking at others builds. I steal shamelessly at races. And if someone does the same to me I take it as a compliment hahaha. IMHO 944spec is the best racing put there for the $$$.

Lol sounds like you an Rasta have some history so I'm not going there!

Yeah, my appoligies for hihacking this thread. I would like it to be over. For good.


If 10 hp is not a hedged advantage then 2-3 from coating winter be either. Unless you have the combo, then you would be talking close to 15. Still, after your assurances, I've come to the conclusion that if it did become an issue, I think the powers that be would recognize it and change the rules back. I am trying to get hooked up with some local guys........ anyone know some rocky mountian spec guys? Im sure I can go throughout pca but just wondering.

Bamf3000 09-10-2011 12:38 PM

I'm assuming you have been on NASArockymountain and 944spec.org? Should be able to find a good set of CO guys. 944sracer and I are both in UT.

vdubr928 09-11-2011 06:32 AM

So you run the rm circuit? Don't we run at a Utah track? I did list on the forum months ago and I only got one response. Its not very active. Maybe it was just the spec forum though. Not sure I tried nasa. Ill give it another shot. I wouldn't mind finding a rental I could play with a few times.

Bamf3000 09-11-2011 12:32 PM

I am currently in the build process like you are. 944Sracer runs mainly Miller out here in Utah. The Spec forum is almost always quite dead but is a decent place to start when trying to get a hold of some people in your area. Kind of depressing how dead it is compared to something like Specmiata.

vdubr928 09-11-2011 12:51 PM

Yeah but I see current videos of rm spec and the field looks pretty full.

944sracer 09-11-2011 09:35 PM

Bamf is correct. He and I are Utah guys (2 of about 5). I run mainly Miller but do travel to California to run Willow and Cal Speedway (now Auto Club Speedway). RM Spec for NASA is quite large but they mainly stay on their side of the mountain for some reason. I would say though, Chuck Taylor who is the RM director last I checked for Spec is a huge help to any newbie and will organize build parties for his fellow racers. He is very personable and friendly so next time you are at a NASA event look for him. RM has one of the biggest Spec-944 fields though so you choose a great class for your area. Chuck will also organize a rental for you no problem so get hooked up with him.

I raced in the NASA National Championship race at Miller last year and it was awesome, 30+ cars for Spec-944 alone! We had our own run group and the competition was great. Nationals is now at Mid-Ohio for 2 years and then its back to Miller (I think). I personally don't agree with NASA's rules regarding contact but I do race with them. The contact is not bad but the possibility is still there. I have found that for my class it is a trade off, I can choose to play with POC or PCA and i get a smaller field (but the ferocity and level of driver skill is equal if not higher!) but no contact they have 13/13 rules prohibiting contact and consequences for contact OR I can choose to run NASA and have a huge field great competition but I need to be ok with getting some contact as "part of Racing" as they put it. The PCA and POC races have contact if someone makes a bad decision but the rules are specifically designed to limit it to accidents such as driver error or a mechanical failure, etc. NASA allows for contact as "part of racing" and they will allow for NASCAR style racing - i.e. bump drafting and some fender rubbing. Some classes are worse than others and the 944 class is really really mellow. that being said I did have someone rub me while I made a pass but it was minor and no issue. Please: don't anyone see this as bashing on NASA but simply stating the facts as I have observed and personally experienced. I called Chuck to ask him about the contact thing when I was making my decision of whether or not to run in the Championship race last year at Miller. Which was where my aforeto mentioned contact happened.

For me, bodywork sucks and isn't cheap; but I do know Mechanical stuff fairly well. So I run PCA and POC and Miller's local race club (which counts for NASA Points, which you need to race in the National event at Year end) for the majority of my racing. Then I run the Championship race at the end of the year. I would run more with NASA if they came near me more often though. I am biased to PCA and POC though, because that's what I grew up on. :D

I use the Spec944 site for information and rules updates but a lack luster response is quite normal on the forum. You may try the NASA forum for Spec-944 but I have no experience with that one. For non-Spec-944 specific information, I would stick to this site as your bread and butter. There is no better site than this one for knowledge and sheer number of threads and people who you can go to for information. For specific class questions I would post on the Spec website or you can shoot me a PM. If you PM me your Email and first name I will pass it on to Chuck Taylor ask him to get in touch with you.

If you happen to be in the area at the end of September the Intermountain Region PCA has our big race the last weekend in september out at Miller. Short notice but I thought I would throw that out there.

944sracer 09-11-2011 09:44 PM

That was really long oops! Sorry for the novel!

vdubr928 09-12-2011 05:54 AM

Its all good. Finding people to educate me about this has been hard. I didn't even realize contact rules were that loose. Not that it scares me. I only paid 325 for my doner so not much to lose. Ill pm you and thanks for all your help.

vdubr928 09-12-2011 06:01 AM

Can't seem to pm you. Pelican has been running like crap on android os for a couple of weeks and im not in town today. Maybe if you pm me ill be able to reply.


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