Need to Sell 87 944S

mdevine · 03-14-2002, 07:01 PM

This hurts.

I need to sell my 87 944S. My wife and I have a house with a two car garage(wife gets one spot and I get the other). The Porsche has taken up my spot in the garage, and my company car stayed outside. Problem is that I now have to turn in my company car and buy my own car-2002 Pathfinder SE 5 speed. I cannot afford to have two cars of my own so the Porsche has to go.

The car has 98K miles. Had the timing belt done about 200 miles ago. Guards Red. Both interior and exterior is about an 8/10. Runs perfect. New CD player and speakers. Performance(+20hp) chip. Very clean. Runs real Strong. All work done professionally. Never Raced.

I plan/hope to sell for between 6-8K. Any suggestions on where I should list the car for sale?

Thanks
Mike
mdevine@mail.com

MAS · MAS's Garage

I take it you need to do a lot of off-road driving if you need the Pathfinder, right?

-MAS

944jeff · 03-15-2002, 05:36 AM

My Girlfriend has a 95 Pathfinder 4X4 and I hate it. It's has a rough ride and the leg room is not enough for me at 6'0. _At least you want a 5 spd!

mdevine · 03-15-2002, 05:55 AM

MAS,

I take it you need to drive over 100 MPH if you have a 944, right?

-Mike

The concept behind an SUV is absurd. But if practicality is what you want then sell your 944 and buy a 4 door Sentra.

Pillow · 03-15-2002, 10:43 AM

>buy my own car-2002 Pathfinder SE 5 speed<

Yuck!

Dude, if you need something practical get an Audi quattro wagon. Mebbe a Subaru wagon.

SUVs suck in general and the Pathfinder is a pig on the road to drive (even in the Infiniti version).

SUVs SUCK!
Only 1% of SUV people NEED one. And they live in the mountains and own shotguns and do not have electricity

... If kids are your excuse pick up your balls and get a minvan. They drive much nicer than any SUV I have been in.

mdevine · 03-15-2002, 01:01 PM

944 to MiniVan....No way

Outback...The V-6 not avialable with manual. 4 Cyl sucks

Audi- Even the 1.8 Turbo is 4-5K more expensive then Pathfinder. I only have about 25K to spend. Pathfinder SE (250hp) is 26K. Lots of nice cars for over 30K, but I do not want to spend that type of money.

I am open to any other suggestions.... Saab 9-3 is a possibility. I can get that for about 27K- 205hp.

I do not understand the anti-SUV sentiment on this board. How can people that own an 2 person car question the usefulness of another type of car. People that live in glass houses should not throw stones.

Nabeel · 03-15-2002, 01:10 PM

Ok, here is why I don't like SUVs and why I would not consider them practical.

1. Bad handling (not very safe)
2. Bad fuel economy (not very practical)
3. Can't see over the freaking things in traffic

Many people may prefer to have the high seating position, but I personally feel safer when I'm closer to the ground.

Nabeel · 03-15-2002, 01:13 PM

For 25K, why don't you look into a VW? Or a used Audi quattro.

Pillow · 03-15-2002, 01:17 PM

9-3 is much much better than any SUV!

Try the new Cadillac CTS seems like a great deal for the money. Yes, you can get a manual. Think 28Kish.

On the throwing stones part. The SUVs are are poor decision because of the horrible handling characteristics and lack of practical use. Unless you offroad at all the car based wagons are much much better vehicle.

Granted I am not certain what model 9-3 you are looking at the cars are completely different indicating that the SUV decision is based on style and not function. If you do not need the SUV functionality then do not get it.

Everyone says "hey I want a safe SUV"... What does safety mean? That when you hit someone because your brakes suck that you do not hurt yourself? Or when you flip over on an icy road because the center of gravity is 10 feet off the ground?

Trust me coming from a 944 to the SUV it will be a pig and you will hate it as a drivers car.

And I did not even broach the gas guzzling issue.

Everyone wants to save the planet but line up around the block to get these fuel hogs! WTF?

Sorry if I come off strong on this, but I am very passoinate about it. The whole thing is not logical to me. Any truck that has leather is not a REAL truck.

redleg · 03-16-2002, 02:56 AM

How about the small outback? it has the same four cylinder as the large one in wuch better balanced package. A couple of other options that we have been looking at are the Volvo S-40, the Subaru WRX, or the new Toyota Matrix. The MAtrix is one sweet looking car with 180 HP and a six speed with room for five. not bad for less than 20,000

lm6y · 03-16-2002, 06:01 AM

Hey mdevine,
Look into keeping it. If you have a good insurance agent you can get a good deal on storage insurance. Then when you want to drive it, you have another vehicle on your policy for another multi vehicle discount. That's what I did, and saved enough with three cars on the policy, that it only costs about $10 a month more to insure all three.

Don't listen to the anti-SUV crowd. I bought a Jeep Cherokee back in November, and I love it. I didn't know how to act when it actually snowed here, and I could go someplace. As far as the bad handling, and bad brakes on an SUV goes, they are right. But if someone tries to drive one like a 944, and ends up on their roof, then they deserve it.

Nice generalization there Pillow. rolleyes: I'm sorry I actually used my freedom of choice for a decision that affects MY life and not yours. I don't live in the mountains, I do own guns, and I do have electricity. I also live in a beautiful part of the country where some of the best places, and most beautiful views are down unimproved gravel (if you want to call it that) roads that would leave a 944 either stuck, or rock chipped all to hell. I'm not willing to put my 944 through that kind of abuse, so I bought an SUV. It's kind of liberating to actually be able to go where you want without the fear of damaging your vehicle. And beleive it or not, it doesn't get but about 2mpg less than my 944. It was my choice to spend my money, not yours.

What it boils down to, is that it's a personal choice. If mdevine wants to spend the money that he earned on a SUV, then he should go for it, and not expect to be critcised for it. If someone wants to buy a Honda Civic that looks like it belongs in "the Fast and the Furious" go for it. I might not like the choice, but I sure as hell won't post that Ricers SUCK!:

andrew4266 · andrew4266's Garage

suv's are nothing more than jacked up station wagons. Love the grocery getter.

Pillow · 03-18-2002, 06:36 AM

lm6y writ:
>unimproved gravel (if you want to call it that) roads that would leave a 944 either stuck, or rock chipped all to hell. I'm not willing to put my 944 through that kind of abuse, so I bought an SUV. <

Of course I am not familiar with your areas unimproved roads and I am not sure if your Jeep is even 4x4 enabled. But I am sure a car based vehicle could traverse most if not all of the same terrain and give you a better handling and performing vehicle.

Granted you may also be one of the small number of SUV drivers who actually uses its capabilities. Therefore my beef is not directed at you at all. 90%+ of SUVs never see off road conditions. When was the last time you saw a Lexus RX300 (yuck) with mud up to the windows? Mmmmm never.

For generalization sake I am sure a Subaru model would meet your needs as well and give you car like performance. With its lower center of gravity it would also be safer on slick paved roads than an SUV.

Some may say I am just beefing w/o even knowing how to tread off road or in the snow, but that is incorrect. I have been in SUVs, trucks (4x4 and 2wd), and cars in the snow and off road. I used to work for the National Park Service and work on a cattle farm in the mountains of WV. Only twice have I burried a truck that needed towed out, and these are situations where I unkowningly drove into swamp areas cover with high grass and ran out of forward momentum. Only once have I needed low range 4x4 to traverse a hill. I think you get the picture.

Even in a 2wd truck the snow is possible to handle. If you drop 100 pounds of sang/kitty litter in the back over the drive wheels and cannot go forward then you cannot stop either. Sure a 4x4 can get you going in that situation, but using the brakes will only result in a full drift slide in snow (scary).

My off road vehicle of choice these days is my '66 VW bus. It can go 90% of the places full bore 4x4s are needed with ease. I have traversed rivers, all sorts of washed out roads, dirt roads, mud holes, and all the little stuff in between. With the motor over the drive wheels and a light front end offroading is a brease, also the low gearing helps too. The only terrain I cannot handle is soft beach sand... Then again w/o 4x4 and good tire no one else can either.

... And you have to love ABS in off roading... NOT!