Clutch issues

[bellamy]

Ok just bought an '86 944 with the clutch pedal on the floor. I saw a puddle of brake fluid under the the car and figured it was the slave. After getting under it that was confirmed by seeing the fluid spill out of the opening by the slave cylinder. I replaced the slave and bleed the system.......still on the floor. I figured I did a poor job bleeding so I tried that again.......still on the floor. I took off the slave again and noticed the lever it presses on has no resistance, it just moves back and forth. Hopefully I'm an idiot and did something wrong. Please what ever advice you got I'll take.

Thank you

[Cocacolakidd]

The lever that the Clutch Slave presses on is the Clutch Actuating Fork. It should have full pressure on it at all times if all is well. Otherwise the fork itself or the clutch pressure plate is faulty and one or the other will need attention.

[nynor]

incorrect assembly of the throw out with the spacers and such, and the whole thing is just sliding on the shaft. time to pull the whole thing apart. sorry, man.

[bellamy]

How would I know which one it is? And would starting while in gear cause that issue by chance

[bellamy]

incorrect assembly of the throw out with the spacers and such, and the whole thing is just sliding on the shaft. time to pull the whole thing apart. sorry, man.

I know it was working fine a few weeks ago. Could the slave going bad cause that issue? What are the odds both had a problem at the same time?

[Rasta Monsta]

To be clear, the clutch actuating arm moves completely freely, hitting the front and the back of the window it pokes out of?

If so, something is broken in the bellhousing, likely the clutch fork itself.

[bellamy]

To be clear, the clutch actuating arm moves completely freely, hitting the front and the back of the window it pokes out of?



If so, something is broken in the bellhousing, likely the clutch fork itself.

What does fixing something like that entail?

[Rasta Monsta]

Drop the trans, pull back the torque tube, pull the hellhousing.

[nynor]

Originally Posted by bellamy

I know it was working fine a few weeks ago. Could the slave going bad cause that issue? What are the odds both had a problem at the same time?

no. the improper assembly may have caused the slave to fail when it allowed the slave piston to move so far forward.

as stated above, you are going to have to pull it all apart to find out what failed. that sucks.

[bellamy]

Ok to "pull it apart" how hard is that to do ie should I get a pro to do it?

[nynor]

well, what is the most difficult mechanical repair you have performed on a car?

[bellamy]

Rebuilt the front end on a 1970 opel gt with a transverse leafspring. I guess would be the hardest.

[kfanazini]

How much did you pay for this car? My guess is the PO knew what was wrong and didn't want to pay for the repair, or he could not do it himself. That should give you an idea about the level of difficulty, and the cost of repair. I hope it is something easy tho.......

[bellamy]

Yeah that would be something people may do but this kid had no idea about the issue.

[nynor]

Originally Posted by bellamy

Rebuilt the front end on a 1970 opel gt with a transverse leafspring. I guess would be the hardest.

clutch on the 944 is probably easier. it is pretty straightforward, but time consuming, and some of the bolts and such, especially at the bellhousing, are very tight. hell, i replaced a 944 clutch with my friend. i've done a LITTLE work on an opel GT, and i don't think that the 944 is nearly as obtuse.

[bazar01]

Originally Posted by bellamy

I know it was working fine a few weeks ago. Could the slave going bad cause that issue? What are the odds both had a problem at the same time?

Well, if it was working fine a few weeks before, it could just be a bad slave cylinder. Keep bleeding until you get pressure. Or rent a power bleeder from an auto parts store to make the bleeding easier. 944 is a pain to bleed without a power bleeder.

Absence of pressure in the lines due to air bubbles will keep the lever you mentioned loose.

[nynor]

bazar, you missed the part in the OP where it says that the clutch arm has no resistance. it is moving freely. AFAIK, no amount of bleeding is going to fix that.

[Rasta Monsta]

He never really said if the arm traveled completely across the "window" though. . .

[bellamy]

Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta

He never really said if the arm traveled completely across the "window" though. . .

I'm not sure on that one. I'm going to go check and see.........If it does not go all the way could it still be a crappy bleeding job on my part?

[nynor]

if it is moving freely, the round side of the 'cup' will be able to hit the end of the window.