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eddie1414 · eddie1414's Garage

Since the 944 didnt ran

I was thinking in getting an 924s for cheap (2000) in runing conditiin do wp and belts and enjoy the.winter. My questions is.to 924 owners what are the.big differences between the 944 and the 924s I know they.share the same engine and.same interior as my 84 but how about powertrain are there big differents between them .
The body style is different too and.i love the curves in the 944 . Is there any way that I can replace the fenders and front bumper .

Gawernator · Gawernator's Garage

As far as I know the 924S is similar to the early model 944

Dave Colangelo · Dave Colangelo's Garage

I have a 924S it is a great car. It is a 944 motor with 924 interior and body. The power is the same as a 944. They say the car is faster because the 924 body is lighter than the 944 body but has the same power as a 944. The power-train in mine is a 5 speed and I think its the same as a 944 but im not sure. It sure shifts and feels the same. I do believe you can bolt on the front fenders from a 944 to a 924S but im not sure. The front impact bumper can also be swapped I think. 924S's are rare I would not change mine even if I could. If you like the shape of a 944 you can get a running one for 2K no problem. If you get this car I would keep it the way it is, if you want a 944 get one. One of my biggest issues with the 924S is with the electrical system. It seems as if they used 924 electronics (speedo tach etc) but 944 engine management so some of the wiring changes colors at some of the connectors making trouble shooting electric issues kinda tough some times. Other than that my 924S was and still is a great car, I will admit it was my first Porsche so I am a bit bias to it.

Regards
Dave

Jrboulder · 10-24-2012, 10:12 PM

The 924S is almost entirely 944 parts. It has so little in common with the 924 they made 2 new type numbers for the series (946 and 947).

Word is is that they had a ton of leftover parts from 924 (which was produced into 84 or 85) and the early 944. The engine is pretty much identical to the 944 motor of the same year. The interior is the same as you would find on a 1985/1 except the trim is unpainted black rather than silver and the gauges are white and black. The trans has the desirable short 5th but is otherwise identical to the early 944 box. The front suspension is the sane as the early 944. The rear is the same as the 85.5-86 cars with the aluminum trailing arms. The 944 brakes are used. The 924S definitely has detter sound deadening than the early 944. The first 1900 or so 1987 engines didn't have the spring tensioner (I'm sure of this because I had 43h00911) You will find more sunroof delete cars with the 924s because it was an expensive option and the 924S was at the bottom of the Porsche lineup. Most cars won't have cruise control or a rear wiper (not that it would work if installed). The common 944 issues are just as prevelant on 924S so don't think it will be any more forgiving or cheaper to own than a 944.

J1NX3D · J1NX3D's Garage

just to add to the chicken or the egg debate, the 944 n/a got its 4 wheel discs from the 924 turbo, which in turn got them from the 911SC.

So you can see that the older 911SC with 180/204 bhp had the same brakes as a 944 with 163/160/143 bhp and the 924S with 150/160 bhp and the 924 turbo with 177/170/143 bhp (and 210 bhp Carrera GT) hence why people say stock 944 brakes are perfectly fine for racing with good fluid and pads.

petrolhead611 · 10-25-2012, 03:14 AM

In England the 924S had the rear wiper.Most, if not all,also had the the electric sunroof.

petrolhead611 · 10-25-2012, 03:16 AM

Incidentally, the short 5th gear was so that the 924S wouldn't have a higher top speed than the less aerodynamic 944.

Slam · 10-25-2012, 06:21 AM

And you can't just bolt a 944 bumper onto a 924S. The mounts are the same but the bodywork's different. You can swap the front fenders, valance and the bumper at the same time, though.

Jrboulder · 10-25-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mAd924

just to add to the chicken or the egg debate, the 944 n/a got its 4 wheel discs from the 924 turbo, which in turn got them from the 911SC.

So you can see that the older 911SC with 180/204 bhp had the same brakes as a 944 with 163/160/143 bhp and the 924S with 150/160 bhp and the 924 turbo with 177/170/143 bhp (and 210 bhp Carrera GT) hence why people say stock 944 brakes are perfectly fine for racing with good fluid and pads.

The 911SC had different calipers, pads, rear rotors and a lot of other stuff. The only part the 911SC has in common with the early offset 944 brakes is the front rotors and maybe some bearings or races. Also, the front calipers used on the 931 brakes were only used on the 944 for model year 1983.

Dave Colangelo · Dave Colangelo's Garage

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Originally Posted by Slam

And you can't just bolt a 944 bumper onto a 924S. The mounts are the same but the bodywork's different. You can swap the front fenders, valance and the bumper at the same time, though.

This is what I meant, I assumed if he was going to go for the 944 look he would replace the whole front of the car more or less.

On any note I did not realize that the car shared more with the 944 than the 924. I always though it was more 924 with the 944 motor. As for the short 5th I have gotten the car going plenty fast, even if it is short its more than you will ever need on regular roads. I have always found the handling to be quite similar to the 944 although I feel like my 944 is a bit more planted, this is more likely because my 944 is in MUCH better shape but it still feels a bit better. I drove my 924S through the winter with no issues at all as a kid just remember it is a light 2 wheel drive car and will behave as such.

I also own an early 911SC and even if it does share some break components they behave very very differently. The breaking on my SC is much better than my 944, this may also have to do with the wider wheels that the SC has and the weight distribution differences. If you are unhappy with the breaks on the 944 I know the turbo's had bigger breaks that people tend to move up to if they want more stopping power, however I have always found the breaks to be more than sufficient.

Regards
Dave

Slam · 10-25-2012, 10:08 AM

The 911 front rotors will fit but in my case I had to mod the caliper to clear them 'cause they're meatier than the stock 944 ones. So not bolt-in.

Dave, I agree that the 924S is basically a narrow-body 944. I drive my 944 all year, and it does feel more planted, probably because of the wider wheelbase. In the case of changing the front of the car, heck, add rear flares and you've got a GT clone! The best looking of the series IMHO.

Jrboulder · 10-25-2012, 10:26 AM

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The 911 front rotors will fit but in my case I had to mod the caliper to clear them 'cause they're meatier than the stock 944 ones. So not bolt-in.

911 sc rotors: Pelican Parts - Product Information: 477-405-083A-M359

944 rotors: Pelican Parts - Product Information: 477-405-083A-M359

Same part number

You probably bought Carrera rotors.

eddie1414 · eddie1414's Garage

I have everything to do the swap i.hope it just bolt on right on ,
Al so i think that people dont abuse it like the 944 .since not too many people realize that both are almost the same . I find one on craiglist for 1000 in running condition i am going to take a look this weekend . Hope wife like it and can make a.deal.