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nutless_neo 12-09-2012 12:11 PM

UGH - Sway Bar Outer Bushing Replacement
 
I swear, if it's not one thing, it's another. I just noticed that one of my outer sway bar bushings is completely gone! As in no longer there. Since this is my daily driver, i need to get this fixed ASAP. Of course Autozone doesn't have em. But is there a bushing I can get for another vehicle like a VW or Audi, something that a local parts store would have?

bordin34 12-09-2012 12:57 PM

What year is your car and what model?

nutless_neo 12-09-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bordin34 (Post 7140187)
What year is your car and what model?

84 944. Its listed under my screen name ;)

Rasta Monsta 12-09-2012 02:10 PM

171 411 314 - $2.50 brand new from Porsche.

nutless_neo 12-09-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta (Post 7140286)
171 411 314 - $2.50 brand new from Porsche.

Is that the dealership price? I was hoping to find some locally. Im also going to need to get the bolt and washer as those are missing too. Damn, this thing is just falling apart. I guess ill lookall that stuff up tomorrow. Might as well upgrade the bushings while I'm at it.

What is the diameter of the sway bar anyway? I'm sure its stock.

I'm guessing its a bad idea to drive with that outer bushing gone. :rolleyes:

Gawernator 12-09-2012 03:45 PM

Upgrade? Use the OEM rubber bushings, they're cheap. IIRC the bolts use lock nuts so order new hardware as well. I replaced most my hardware when I changed sways. Also get new bushings that connect sway to control arm. Also cheap.

Gawernator 12-09-2012 03:46 PM

Also, it's not an emergency part. Idk what damage will occur driving as is but it would take 15 minutes to jack the car up and just remove the bar. The car drives fine without it for daily purposes.

nutless_neo 12-09-2012 03:56 PM

Thanks Gaw. I'm not concerned about the price so much. It was on my list of things to do anyway. I can't find that nut and washer in the Pelican catalog though. Also do you happen to know the diameter of the swaybar? Again, I believe its just stock. I don't have a caliper to measure it.

Since my commute is 100 miles each day round trip, I'm not going to risk any damage.

Gawernator 12-09-2012 05:44 PM

Almost certainly 23.5 mm. You will be able to find the parts numbers for the hardware in the Porsche parts catalog. I'd get them for you but I'm working. However it might be easier to get basic nuts and bolts at a local parts store. Depends on what you get.

pfarah 12-09-2012 07:34 PM

To Nutless_neo,

You may want to measure the bar with a caliper as there were, I believe, several sizes available. My 84 has the 25 mm bar. They are a bugger to put on and make sure you take a picture prior to replacing the bushings or you may end up putting them on backwards (ask me how I know...). Since I utilize this site almost daily, I try to purchase as many parts from Pelican Parts as possible; they do offer overnight shipping. Good luck!

Grandad#3 12-09-2012 07:43 PM

Hopefully the link below will take you to the 1982 - 1985 Porsche Parts Katalog to look up the part numbers you need.

http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/en/E_944_85_KATALOG.pdf

Cheers,
Larry

nutless_neo 12-10-2012 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grandad#3 (Post 7140831)
Hopefully the link below will take you to the 1982 - 1985 Porsche Parts Katalog to look up the part numbers you need.

http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/en/E_944_85_KATALOG.pdf

Cheers,
Larry

How did you find that catalog on the Porsche site? I need one for the 84 944

nutless_neo 12-10-2012 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfarah (Post 7140821)
To Nutless_neo,

You may want to measure the bar with a caliper as there were, I believe, several sizes available. My 84 has the 25 mm bar. They are a bugger to put on and make sure you take a picture prior to replacing the bushings or you may end up putting them on backwards (ask me how I know...). Since I utilize this site almost daily, I try to purchase as many parts from Pelican Parts as possible; they do offer overnight shipping. Good luck!

Thanks for the tip. It looks like I just may have to get a caliper because I think I'm just going to upgrade the entire assembly with stronger brackets and of course the poly bushings.

Gawernator 12-10-2012 09:08 AM

Use rubber bushings :)

nutless_neo 12-10-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gawernator (Post 7141418)
Use rubber bushings :)

Why's that? I've always had great results with Polyurethane bushings.

Gawernator 12-10-2012 09:34 AM

Same reason Porsche used them, they're forgiving and absorb the pain!

Panzer909 12-10-2012 01:03 PM

I was in a similar situation a few years back. Had a power steering line leak and it soaked the bushings over time and completely destroyed them. While waiting for the parts in the mail, it drove fine without the sway bar (but of course I wasn't going to do any really spirited driving until then) :)

This was how I found out my car had the M030 suspension package as the bushings had numbers beginning with 951...nice!

nutless_neo 12-10-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panzer909 (Post 7141837)
I was in a similar situation a few years back. Had a power steering line leak and it soaked the bushings over time and completely destroyed them. While waiting for the parts in the mail, it drove fine without the sway bar (but of course I wasn't going to do any really spirited driving until then) :)

This was how I found out my car had the M030 suspension package as the bushings had numbers beginning with 951...nice!

Which is another reason to get polyurethane bushings. They won't degrade being soaked in oil, grease or whatever.

I hate not driving my car :( but since I'll be taking the other nut off to get a match at the hardware store, I'm just not going to risk driving it. I have a 5 mile twisty road from my house to the highway as well as another 45 miles to work after that. I got a caliper to measure the swaybar so I can at least order the bushings when I get home tonight. Sucks that it's so cold outside. I hate the cold!:mad:

Gawernator 12-10-2012 01:25 PM

All my bushings said 951. As well :o

968 GUY 12-10-2012 05:44 PM

Poly bushings are nice for the reason that they last, firm things up if you want that, but will transfer road noise, youneed to constantly relube them or they will squeak.


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