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NBTF 06-12-2013 09:32 AM

Do I even want to know how hard this is going to be???
 
While under the dash I found some fluid and a torn boot for the clutch. As the title states, how hard would this be to fix/replace. Or is it worth tearing into yet?

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968 GUY 06-12-2013 10:18 AM

Do it now and replace master, slave and both hoses (clutch pressure hose and blue hose from res. to master).
It is not that hard once you jack up the car.

thekidd 06-12-2013 10:28 AM

Clutch master cylinder I believe.
Clark's Garage Home Page
Go to garage shops manuel, go to transmission/ clutch, and click on clutch master cylinder an that will show you the procedure. It's not that hard. Forget how long it took me to swap the new one in, along with the pipe and the slave but I'd say right around 2 hours id guess? Others say to change the clave cylinder and the rubber hose connecting it to the slave.

John_AZ 06-12-2013 10:36 AM

Good information above.

The job is quite simple to replace the clutch master, slave, hose (double check part number) and the short blue web hose to the MC (Pelican sells it by the meter-make 4 and give leftover to friends)

The teeth grinding, fist pounding, cursing part is when you cannot bleed the new parts correctly. 2 hours to replace the parts ----2 days to bleed......unless you have the Motive brake bleeder or have skills untold.

GL
J_AZ

944 Ecology 06-12-2013 11:20 AM

+1 on what John AZ has said above.

Remember, the Motive Brake Bleeder blows, it does not suck. Use it dry and avoid the mess that using it with fluid can cause.

Chunkerz 06-12-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 944 Ecology (Post 7494699)
Use it dry and avoid the mess that using it with fluid can cause.

In my experience it must have fluid in it for it to work. I tried using dry to bleed my clutch and it pushed nothing but air through the system. I poured some fluid into the Power Bleeder and the problem was solved.

John_AZ 06-12-2013 07:09 PM

Dry
J_AZ

911tracker85 06-13-2013 05:03 AM

saw this on RL. seemed like a good idea so saved for whenever I need to do this.

YMMV

good luck.

bleeding clutch master & slave question - Rennlist Discussion Forums

Rasta Monsta 06-13-2013 05:37 AM

Stories of jacking up the rear of the car for this procedure make me LOL. Bench bleeding also unnecessary.

gacook 06-13-2013 08:03 AM

Easy?!?!

Slave-very simple.
Hoses-very simple.
Master-pain in the ass! While the job itself wasn't difficult, getting my hands/wrench on the master was a huge pain. You guys use any special tools to make it "easy?"

Rasta Monsta 06-13-2013 08:06 AM

Wobbler.

Ederd 06-13-2013 12:11 PM

i replaced everything except the brake booster. new master/slave /fluid flush and even removed all the brake lines and cleaned the connections. all in all it took abt 2 days since it was my first time. i just used normal tools and no special tools. remove the drivers seat be it will be a PITA if you dont.

djnolan 06-13-2013 01:01 PM

I found the bolts were not easily accessible on the slave (lower) unit, let alone the bleed screw. And I have done a few Houdini jobs such as oil cooler seals w/o removing the header, rear cam seal, heater core hoses, icv hoses w/o removing intake, etc. ...

NBTF 06-13-2013 01:38 PM

Thanks for the info. I know what my next paycheck is going towards. So far the car has not been too bad for being garaged for about 2 years and less than 500 put on it.

mikepellegrini 06-13-2013 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chunkerz (Post 7495535)
In my experience it must have fluid in it for it to work. I tried using dry to bleed my clutch and it pushed nothing but air through the system. I poured some fluid into the Power Bleeder and the problem was solved.

+1

I kept having the same problem with my Motive Bleeder when doing the clutch - the intake for the clutch is too high on the reservoir, so unless you're extremely careful, you're sucking air before you know it.

I solved the problem the same way; by filling the Motive Bleeder with brake fluid. It is messy and it's a pain to clean up, but makes bleeding the clutch dirt simple.

Doing the clutch master on an NA is pretty easy - at least compared to a 951.

The hardest part for me was working upside-down under the dash. Something that made that easier, I found, was to take off the steering wheel.


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