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overkill 07-28-2002 04:54 AM

Do you guyz think she'll run?
 
Do you guyz think she'll run?

overkill 07-28-2002 06:26 AM

She's TOAST!!! Will not start. I got TDC on the flywheel and the cams, then I put the timing belt back on. I used a long screw driver to see if piston #1 was up all the way. I didn't know the piston ends up that hig in the cylinder! Anyway, I assembled the DIS rotor and CAP. I put the plugs in nice and snug. I put the wires on the DIS cap in the correct order and gave it a go. She didn't budge. I could smell gas in the muffler. Well, she's a dead stick for now. I don't know what I want to do with her. I am definitely getting my 951, so I sell her for real cheap to the highest bidder or keep her and fix her WAY down the road after the 951. I could part her out and keep whats good and sell the rest to people in need. It's just that she is so beautiful:( If I kept her, I don't think I could afford insurance for both the cars. I dont know. I think I'll keep her for awhile. Quick question, Why would they make it so that the valves and the pistons would hit if timing belt broke? Why couldn't they inset the valves a bit so they would clear the pistons in case it did happen? Because,... it would be to perfect and it would be devastating on the autoparts industry? HMMM:D

todwic 07-28-2002 02:18 PM

compression+German engineers=don't shadetree the important stuff

Britwrench 07-29-2002 07:48 AM

Most engines nowadays are "interference", that is if the belt or chain breaks the valves hit the pistons (ask any Saab V6 owner ). To achieve the sort of power outputs the compression ratio, piston and combustion chamber design leave little room for mechanical failures. Interestingly enough, there is a trend now to go back to timing chains and away from timing belts........

By the way, your car did not fail; you broke it!!!

Most timing belt failures could could be avoided with correct maintenance. We currently have a '86 944 with 122,000 miles on it, no-one knows when the belt was changed, and, suprisingly enough, the belt broke. Now let's see, it's either $350 for a belt change or $2,500 to repair all the damage, which one would you choose????

AFJuvat 07-29-2002 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Britwrench
Most timing belt failures could be avoided with correct maintenance. We currently have a '86 944 with 122,000 miles on it, no-one knows when the belt was changed, and, suprisingly enough, the belt broke. Now let's see, it's either $350 for a belt change or $2,500 to repair all the damage, which one would you choose????
Gee... I could swear I've heard that before........

Halleujah and amen.

(I was one of the 2 that voted, no it won't run again)

AFJuvat

SoCal Driver 07-29-2002 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Britwrench
Now let's see, it's either $350 for a belt change or $2,500 to repair all the damage...
I'm just not charging myself enough for this! I'll just double my flat rate next time to make up for it.

overkill 07-29-2002 01:35 PM

Quote:

By the way, your car did not fail; you broke it!!!
That's funny. Anyway, next time I have to be alot more careful and make sure I get plenty of sleep. Breaking a car down SHOULD take along time. I think I was rushing a bit. I couldh't have the car off the road more than a couple of days at a time so I was rushing to get things done. I didn't take note or anything to do this because I didn't need notes. It was a simple project that just didn't go well. I got eveything back to where it came from. I cleaned the engine off real good and it's looks real nice. To bad it doesn't run.

951carter 07-29-2002 02:09 PM

i must be missing something here but what makes you think it is broke? is the engine turning over real fast? have you done a leakdown? it could be something simple like the hal sensors being hooked up backwards.
did the belt break or something? if it did you can bet that the valves are bent. even if it was not running, just cranking.....they are bent.

Britwrench 07-29-2002 02:26 PM

As far as I am concerned; there never is a "simple job" and you should always make notes. Even simple jobs can become major ones..............................................

SoCal;

$350 is for parts and labor!!!

ae1969 07-29-2002 03:25 PM

I agree with Brit......I remember doing a "simple" job on my 82 plymouth sapporo (aluminum block as well)

Tune up went bad....stripped one spark plug.....AAAAGGGGHHHHHH

That is why I only use a torque wrench nowadays!


..... another reason (#212)...a porsche should not be a first car for anyone.

porscheguy1 07-29-2002 06:59 PM

porsches are great d d's
 
i drive my 944 everyday 120 miles total to and from work i keep a creeper and jack where the jump seats should be


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