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9201 or should i buy cheesey tensioner tool?

Doing a early motor and late motor and Im gonna have to tension belts at some point. Will the cheaper belt tensioning tools work as well? It is 2015. Thoughts or feedback.

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Krikit

I just got one of these and Im going to test it against the Porsche tool. I'll let you know what I find.
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Or one of these (my Christmas present)...
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My goodness, the instructions to that thing. Yikes!
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You got that right!
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I used the 928 style arnnworx tool. Used it like 10x and no problems.
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Been doin' mine as the mattdavis 11 post shows, The 90 degree twist method. R&R belts every 30,000 miles/5 years. No problems....ever!
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Yea! +1 for fingers. Works like a charm.
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Or one of these (my Christmas present)...
I picked up the same tool last Summer ,great to have around the shop !

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Ok so I can do 90°s twist on the cam and balance shaft belt in the longest span of belt?
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90 for cam belt, 270 for balance. JohnAZ also has a good method for testing tension after using the 90 degree method. . .put on some latex gloves and try to turn the water pump pulley. If it doesn't turn, belt is too tight.
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+1 on the water pump & rubber gloves ! Thanks Rasta, I left that important part out.
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yup, after doing several of these on 944's (at least a dozen), i've used the 9201, the krikit, the arnnworx tool, and my fingers. i've checked all of the above against the 9201 and found them to be satisfactory.

it is my opinion that the 9201 was an overkill solution to some costly belt failures, when the 944 first came out.

it isn't voodoo.
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I recommend having a tool to measure. I like the Annworx tool myself. I think you need to know the numbers AND see what that looks/feels like. I'm sure experience will get you close without a tool but I'd rather get the belt into the proper tension by measuring it. I'm getting ready to do my 1500 mile retension after a new belt installation. Having the tool to get the tension exactly where the engineers said it should be, ensures that the set up is within limits, etc. Otherwise, it is a "good guess".
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The 9201 tool actually has an extra function that you don't read about very often- not only does it mesure calibrated belt tension in nm, but much more importantly it takes the responsibility of timing belt failure off of Porsche and puts it onto the last mechanic who touched the belts.
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^^Hahaha

When I put my camshaft back together and put the timing belt back on, I literally just used a long screw driver on the tensioner (I had an 87 with the "auto tensioner") to pull it tight then just re adjusted it until I was happy with the 90 degree test. Worked for me, drove it like that for 1500 miles until I had to take it off again for some other work.
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I've done three belts on my car using the 'twist' method and never had any problems. You also tell by the sound; if it whines, it's too tight; if it flops it's too loose.

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