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pfarah 01-08-2016 09:26 AM

Sorry about the car but glad you're ok. From the pics, it appears that the car could be fixed, depending on any potential frame damage. Good luck!

Frenco99 01-08-2016 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8948938)
Totalled from a dollar standpoint but completely fixable from a driving standpoint. It's up to you. Personally I'd rip the fenders and hood off, replace (cheap) and go back to driving it (I'm assuming nothing suspension-wise got fuggered up or anything - even if so, probably still relatively minor $$$ since parts for the n/a cars are fairly inexpensive). Then either drive it as an "expendable" beater (nothing more fun than thrashing around in a P-car you don't really care about - it seems so wrong but it's soooooo fun) or a track car.

I hope the knucklehead pooped himself thinking "OMG I just hit a PORSCHE!!!" (most people have no idea that our cars are book valued so little).

It bites. Been there done that - in my case it was a modded 951 that caught fire. That one stung (but it did set up the purchase of my 911). Worst case, get another. All the best.

Yeah I know, I'm definitely gonna have to give it some thought on this one. Thanks for the advice Porsche-O-Phile

emoore924 01-08-2016 10:01 AM

Before you make your decision and/or spend a bunch of money fixing it, make sure you can get it insured after it is rebuilt. If it indeed ends up "totalled" with a salvage branded title, check with whomever you plan to insure it (or other companies if need be) to be sure they will insure a "reconstructed" title car. A lot of insurance companies won't write a policy on a recon title any more.

Frenco99 01-08-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by emoore924 (Post 8949081)
Before you make your decision and/or spend a bunch of money fixing it, make sure you can get it insured after it is rebuilt. If it indeed ends up "totalled" with a salvage branded title, check with whomever you plan to insure it (or other companies if need be) to be sure they will insure a "reconstructed" title car. A lot of insurance companies won't write a policy on a recon title any more.

I've heard of this before, and It wouldn't be worth the trouble rebuilding if I can't insure it... that's why I'm slowly leaning towards just buying another one if I can find a good clean one or just getting a completely different sports car. Maybe even a 968 if I could find one. But they are few and far in between these days

dgcantrell 01-08-2016 01:12 PM

I'm with you guys on the older Datsun Zs.. Unfortunately not many survive today due to rusting from the inside out. LOVE those 240, 260, 280Z's.. Wasn't too crazy about the ZX's released later in the run. Too squarish...

You can insure it.. I've never had any issues getting mine insured. I dropped full coverage and went with straight liability a few years ago. Here in VA that is the minimum. With book values going up on these cars, I got hit with paying more property tax on my 87 944 than I did on the 2003 Audi A8L because apparently they are now booking (NADA) at around $6300. I told the lady at the courthouse that I'd split the money with her if I could get my insurance company to give me that much for the car if I were to total it again. Fortunately I don't live in NOVA where property taxes are just downright re-effin-diculous. I might go back to full coverage if the book value goes much higher though.

Frenco99 01-08-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dgcantrell (Post 8949401)
I'm with you guys on the older Datsun Zs.. Unfortunately not many survive today due to rusting from the inside out. LOVE those 240, 260, 280Z's.. Wasn't too crazy about the ZX's release later in the run.

You can insure it.. I've never had any issues getting mine insured. I dropped full coverage and went with straight liability a few years ago. Here in VA that is the minimum. With book values going up on these cars, I got hit with paying more property tax on my 87 944 than I did on the 2003 Audi A8L because apparently they are now booking (NADA) at around $6300. I told the lady at the courthouse that I'd split the money with her if I could get my insurance company to give me that much for the car if I were to total it again. Fortunately I don't live in NOVA where property taxes are just downright re-effin-diculous. I might go back to full coverage if the book value goes much higher though.

Do you think it's worth rebuilding? ..I mean this is my second wrecked 944 for the same reason. I'll always be a die hard Porsche enthusiast but I'm just kind of curious of other 80's/90's model sports cars too.

dgcantrell 01-08-2016 02:37 PM

"Worth" has a different meaning to different people. I'm of the school that hates to see perfectly repairable things be cut-up and parted out because the cost of "new" parts from the Dealer cost more than the deemed worth of the car. If it were a run of the mill Honda Civic, I might let that one go but not my Porsche. Any Porsche. Especially a literal fender bender like this. If was wadded up, rolled, and didn't have one piece of straight sheet metal on it, I'd THEN part it out just to save others. But that's just me. Like I said, if you have place to stick it and it be safe and out of the weather while you've got it torn down, I'd go for fixing it. It took me several months to fix mine both times. Fortunately I had a place to put it safely inside.

djnolan 01-08-2016 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frenco99 (Post 8949233)
It wouldn't be worth the trouble rebuilding if I can't insure it...

If you have proof the car was repaired (even by a DIY'er) , you should be able to re-insure it and pursue any future claims should it get wrecked again. Talk to your insurance company and make sure you have proof of repair (pictures, receipts for parts, etc) Even if it is not a perfect repair (inner fender or frame rail has been straightened but shows a few creases, paint match not exact, etc) insurance companies should provide coverage.

BTW look for repair parts in the same color and you could have a bolt on repair with little or no additional body work or painting.

One thing that makes me think it is an easy repair is that it was hit above the bumper and there may not be any frame damage. From the looks of it you need a RED door, fender and light assembly. You may need to straighten the inner fender a little. Could be an easy bolt on repair. Do you have pictures of under the hood?

dsfnctn 01-08-2016 07:13 PM

glad you are OK. For a daily driver the turbo is way to complicated and around town its like driving a low compression 944. I would take no less than 7K for your car and then shop for another before they get to scarce. Im telling you that not everyone knows how cool these cars are. you may think you want something else but the time and knowledge you have invested in ownership really makes it easy for you to keep going . Im not trying to sell you anything but lots of good cars for sale. I have quit a few of 944s. I just al of a sudden realized tht my two 944 turbos were great cars but a little complicated even though I did my own work so I sold and got a 968. i still have 2 944 race cars and a really funky 924S special edition. These cars are great but cost a bit to get sorted. typically 2K for water pump front end engine and 2K clutch. make sure you get all the money you can.

Frenco99 01-08-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dsfnctn (Post 8949904)
glad you are OK. For a daily driver the turbo is way to complicated and around town its like driving a low compression 944. I would take no less than 7K for your car and then shop for another before they get to scarce. Im telling you that not everyone knows how cool these cars are. you may think you want something else but the time and knowledge you have invested in ownership really makes it easy for you to keep going . Im not trying to sell you anything but lots of good cars for sale. I have quit a few of 944s. I just al of a sudden realized tht my two 944 turbos were great cars but a little complicated even though I did my own work so I sold and got a 968. i still have 2 944 race cars and a really funky 924S special edition. These cars are great but cost a bit to get sorted. typically 2K for water pump front end engine and 2K clutch. make sure you get all the money you can.

I really appreciate the insight about the turbo/951. I'm def not gonna let them lowball me. I've had the na 944 for a while, this one being my second one and while I had It I enjoyed it but still wanted more power. I want to try another sports car but I don't wanna leave this forum, because I no longer own a Porsche. Do you think I should go for the 968 if I can locate one?

dgcantrell 01-09-2016 08:08 AM

That's what I'll go for next. I've always wanted a 968 since they first came out. Maybe a 944S2 if I can't swing it. There was a nice one (S2) in the Classifieds down in Atanta. If I had $10K in my pocket, I would have gone and gotten it 2 weeks ago.

Frenco99 01-09-2016 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dgcantrell (Post 8950316)
That's what I'll go for next. I've always wanted a 968 since they first came out. Maybe a 944S2 if I can't swing it. There was a nice one (S2) in the Classifieds down in Atanta. If I had $10K in my pocket, I would have gone and gotten it 2 weeks ago.

Yeah hopefully I'll find one for a good price

PHillary 01-09-2016 08:25 AM

GEICO gave me 8,000 grand for my crashed 88' 944, but I had all of my receipts to prove I spent money on my car and it was not the average daily driver.

Forgot to mention, I brought it back from them for $400 so a lot of it I was able to salvage for my 87' 944 S car that I have now .

thomasryan 01-09-2016 08:51 AM

Bruce Anderson did an appraisal/evaluation for me back in 06 or so on a 914. The insurance company cut me a check for 7900.

Starter wives have a steep learning curve.

dsfnctn 01-09-2016 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frenco99 (Post 8949998)
I really appreciate the insight about the turbo/951. I'm def not gonna let them lowball me. I've had the na 944 for a while, this one being my second one and while I had It I enjoyed it but still wanted more power. I want to try another sports car but I don't wanna leave this forum, because I no longer own a Porsche. Do you think I should go for the 968 if I can locate one?

after just paying 12500 for the purple one just posted here and will have to drop another 3 to fix the common pinion bearing noise that they all have i will have to get back to you later and let you know if the 968 at fifteeen is that much better than this at 10500 http://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace/907066-1987-porsche-944-s-16v-ventiler.html

dsfnctn 01-09-2016 08:39 PM

Get the money and buy this
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/889552-1989-porsche-944-s2-marietta-ga.html

Frenco99 01-09-2016 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dsfnctn (Post 8951096)

Wow, thanks! @dsfnctn. I'm defenitely gonna look into this. Car is super clean. Hopefully if I'm compensated in time, I'll probably end up with this. Thanks again

dgcantrell 01-10-2016 08:49 AM

That's the one I was talking about. I'd snatch that up in a heartbeat if I had the money.

Frenco99 01-10-2016 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dgcantrell (Post 8951441)
That's the one I was talking about. I'd snatch that up in a heartbeat if I had the money.

Yeah he's even lowerd the price a little, a cool deal indeed. Is the 944 S just as fast as the 951?

alfadoc 01-12-2016 08:57 AM

An S2 is THE daily driver in the 944 world IMHO. This one is even an unusual color. I'd snag that in a heartbeat. I absolutely love mine, one of my all time favorite cars.

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