Oil Pan Gasket v. Removing the engine

[Litesonic]

So, I am at a crossroads I think...

I read through clark's garage on the oil pan removal procedure, and on the turbo... this seems like most of the same work to pull the engine, or at least a similar amount of time.

Although my oil pan is leaking... I would love to do a front engine seal and redo the belts/waterpump as well.
The leak(s) are significant and something I inherited from the PO. It's a consistent enough of a leak that there is NO way I could consider a DE day, or even an autocross, really until it's addressed.

Does it make more sense to pull the engine (or drop it, actually, I guess) than to go through the exercise of the oil pan gasket replacement?

Trying to formulate a fall/winter plan.

[fiily]

Doing the pan gasket on our 951's is not a nice job. If you start your shopping list now and have some patience, for $1200-1400 you will have a nice tight, dry car for the upcoming events you have planned, and for years to come if you do everything I have listed below.

Price is obviously dependant on what you are going to replace with the engine out. Clutch/Porsche Engine Mounts will take up $800-900 , otherwise it's a cheap reseal/tb/wp for $400-$600


If this is a winter project I would drop the engine, degrease the engine/engine bay, do the clutch, rms, rod bearings, Oil Cooler Reseal, AOS o-rings, balance shaft o-rings front/back, reseal the balance shaft covers, replace the heater control valve, replace all coolant hoses (18 hoses on the 951's I think), replace the dipstick o-ring, replace your motor mounts since it's literally at your fingertips,replace the crusty under intake hoses (venturi, isv), replace all of the vacuum lines and t's, and then do your FOES/WP/Timing belt/Cam Box reseal.

Sounds like a ton of work, but with the engine out and not crammed into the engine bay, and placing the engine on a stand makes this task 1000x's easier than having to do the work with the 2.5L in the car.

Cheapest price I have found:

NEW 944 Turbo Water Pump $154 with gasket -- ZIMS AutoTechnikhttp://www.***********/store/new-water-pump-late-version-944t.html
NEW 944 Timing belt Kit $180 ******* https://www.*******.com/products/porsche-timing-belt-and-tensioner-kit-944-fcp-porkit2?gclid=COWll43xsM4CFcEmhgodNoEKMw
NEW 944/944T Deluxe Front Engine Seal Kit with steel races $116.50 ZIMS AutoTechnik
NEW 944T Oil Cooler Reseal Kit $36
NEW 944 Engine Mounts x2(porsche,corteco) $185/ea @ sonnersporsche
NEW Rod Bearing Set, Std., 924S/944/944T/S/S2/968/928 $86.60 ZIMS AutoTechnik http://www.***********/store/rod-bearing-set-std-924s-944-944t-s-s2-968-928.html
New 944 Oil Pan Gasket $40 online everywhere
NEW 944T Sachs Clutch Kit, clutch fork needle bearings $5-600 http://www.***********/store/clutch-kit-944t-86-91-turbo-cup.html
NEW Hoses/Fittings/Vacuum Lines/O-Rings/Heater Control Valve/Misc. items/RMS $150-$200

Optional Upgrades:

t3/t4 50/57 trim turbo
3" downpipe
3" full exhaust
Tial WasteGate

[Rasta Monsta]

Just stood at these crossroads and decided to pull the engine for a complete reseal. I am confident that the time saved doing the work on the stand, as opposed to a tight engine bay, completely justified the R&R time, especially on a turbo.

[Litesonic]

Thanks for the list fiily.

I have inspected my clutch and it's all good... just did the master, slave and connector line as well.
To top it off, I already have the first 3 things on your list, plus the PO had all the "easy" vacuum lines done, so it's just the crusty ones under the intake I have to deal with (which has to come off anyway).

The more I think about this, the more it seems like the easy (smart) way is to pull the engine.

Now to find a stand...

[sausagehacker]

Harbor freight, $40

[fiily]

Originally Posted by Litesonic

Thanks for the list fiily.

I have inspected my clutch and it's all good... just did the master, slave and connector line as well.
To top it off, I already have the first 3 things on your list, plus the PO had all the "easy" vacuum lines done, so it's just the crusty ones under the intake I have to deal with (which has to come off anyway).

The more I think about this, the more it seems like the easy (smart) way is to pull the engine.

Now to find a stand...

No Problemo, we are all here to help each other keep these car's on the road and save each of us time and money in the process.

Check your oil pickup tube for any cracks if doing the bearings.